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I Show How Hillary Clinton's MSNBC Townhall In Philadelphia On April 25th 2016 Was Basically Just Lies

This post is basically a commentary on what has to be one of the best con jobs in this years "Democratic" primary, i.e. talking to Hillary as if she isn't lying and we don't have proof of that.

Video: Hillary Clinton MSNBC Democratic Town Hall In Philadelphia - April 25th 2016

Extracts from the FULL TRANSCRIPT;
MADDOW:  We're doing these town halls tonight before this great body in Philly, you and Senator Sanders back to back. At this point in the primary I think a lot of people think no matter who gets the nomination, there is something that has changed in the Democratic primary because of this contest. I think a lot of people would describe it as Senator Sanders kind of putting his mark on the party, that after this contest the Democratic Party may be more populist, more aggressive on economic inequality, maybe more progressive overall. Do you see it that way?
CLINTON:  Well I think that what we've had is a very spirited contest. Certainly we share a lot of the same goals. We have a commitment to doing something about inequality, more good jobs and rising incomes, we have a commitment to try to counter the much-too-heavy influence that money has, particularly by overturning Citizens United -- I think we diagnose the problems in very similar ways. But as I have said repeatedly, it's not enough just to diagnose the problem, you have to have solutions, you have to be able to demonstrate you can achieve results.

ME: It doesn't really seem that they share alot of the same goals, unless you focus JUST on this primary season when Hillary changed positions on multiple issues, including issues she pushed 45 times before making her claims of having changed position untenable, to be competitive in this election (i.e. she's changing her positions in appearance ONLY to win votes... that's why rather than answering Rachel Maddows question in the affirmative she is talking randomly.

MADDOW:  Senator Sanders has been asked about how this all ends. He seems to be saying now that even if you beat him in the primary it's not necessarily a given that he will implore all of his supporters to go out and work for you. He says that he thinks that they'll support you if basically you adopt some of his platform on the issues that are most important to him. He's specifically talked about Wall Street and some other things in his platform. Does that make sense to you? Is that something you'd be open to? Are there significant enough differences between you on what you'd like to do, for example about Wall Street, about the bridge too far?
CLINTON:  Well Rachel, let's look where we are right now. I've got 10.4 million votes. I have 2.7 million more folks, real people, showing up to cast their vote, to express their opinion than Senator Sanders. I have a bigger lead in pledged delegates than Senator Obama when I ran against him in 2008 ever had over me. I am winning. And I'm winning because of what I stand for and what I've done (APPLAUSE) and what I stand for.
Not really. Clinton is winning because of cover ups, media blackouts on Bernie Sanders, creating high expectations through Super Delegates AND because Bernie didn't go all out with exposing Hillary like Obama did in 2008. In other words, she won by cheating and not fair and square THUS she doesn't deserve to be the nominee.

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Obama: "Hillary Clinton Will Say ANYTHING To Get Elected" (2008 Radio Add) PLUS Other Obama Take Downs Of Hillary Clinton From 2008 Which Reveal What A Lying Scumbag She Really Is!

Super Delegates And Corporate Media Bias Prove That The "Democratic" Party Should Be Disqualified AND Disbanded For Rigging The Elections To Serve It's Party Agenda

HC: Look, I think we have much more in common and I want to unify the Party, but my Wall Street plan is much more specific than his. We saw that when he couldn't even answer questions in the New York Daily News interview. 

The Daily News interview was a hit job that even the Huffington Post mentioned, so that fact that Hillary mentions it here deserves a clarification questions (which never comes). In any case, this statement proves Hillary is lying or 'distorting the truth' while Maddow is helping her by letting it slide or not seeing that in the first place. I covered this here:

Hillary Clinton Lied About The Daily News Interview With Bernie Sanders During Her MSNBC Townhall (That Interview By Daily News Was Hit Job More Than Anything Else)

HC: He has yet to join me in going after the shadow banking industry. 

Something which Paul Krugman likes to talk about and which may have been a result of the deregulation push by Alan Greenspan and Bill Clinton. (very little information on this topic around) Seems like a risky play.

Related post: Bill Clinton Paved The Way For The Financial Crisis Of 2008 With His Drive For Deregulation Culminating With The Repeal Of The Glass Steagall Act

HC: So there are so many areas where I'm more specific, where I have a track record, where I explain what I will do and I think that's why I have 2.7 million more votes than he does.
No you have more votes for the reasons I outlined above... deception is the main way she is winning... like a GOP Establishment Republican! All she is doing is repeating her lies unchallenged.

MADDOW:  Am I right in hearing that as basically you saying that there's nothing you're going to do differently than you're already doing as a way to try to win over his supporters, even at the end of the primary season?
CLINTON:  Let's look at what happened in 2008, because that's the closest example. Then-Senator Obama and I ran a really hard race. It was so much closer than the race right now between me and Senator Sanders. We had (ph) pretty much the same amount of popular votes. By some measures I have (ph) slightly more popular votes. He has slightly more pledged delegates. 
We got to the end in June and I did not put down conditions. I didn't say, "You know what, if Senator Obama does x, y and z, maybe I'll support him. I said, "I am supporting Senator Obama, because no matter what our differences might be, they pale in comparison to the differences between us and the Republicans." That's what I did.
Her argument here is that I nominated Obama and now you should nominate me. Nothing about why she had no choice BUT to nominate Obama since he had destroyed her reputation and fighting him would have been dangerous. What is going on now is the opposite, i.e. Hillary is not winning because she damaged Bernie Sander's reputation but because she and the media WITHHELD information.

At that time 40 percent of my supporters said they would not support him. So from the time I withdrew, until the time I nominated him -- I nominated him at the Convention in Denver -- I spent an enormous amount of time convincing my supporters to support him. And I'm happy to say the vast majority did.
And later Obama made her Secretary of State. Helped her kill people. Went back on several campaign promises in unique ways (apparently executive power for banning unconstitutional prisons wasn't enough and reports on unconstitutional torture programs disappeared). Related post:

Hillary & Obama Are Following The Advice Of A Madman (& War Criminal, i.e. Henry Kissinger) ... They Have Destabilized Countries Like Bush & Cheney Did!

HC: That is what I think one does. That is certainly what I did and I hope that we will see the same this year. 
Clearly, Hillary believes lies and smear is part of the political process! I have multiple proofs of this;
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Bill Moyers: Flashback: Elizabeth Warren Tells a Story About Hillary Clinton, Wall Street and Lobbying

MADDOW:  A lot of Republicans had verbial (ph) heart attacks this weekend when a gentleman by the name of Charles Koch, one of the billionaire Koch brothers, said that you might very well be a better president than either Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. Now I know that you don't want Charles Koch's endorsement, and you have said that, but it struck me that that might be a little bit of a preview of what's to come. If Mr. Trump or Senator Cruz is nominated, I think a lot of Republicans will find them to be unacceptable as Republican nominees. If you were the Democratic nominee in that situation, do you have a plan to basically lobby for Republican votes? They're having a weird primary.
CLINTON:  And you know I tweeted I really am not looking for endorsements from people who deny climate change 

Yet she supports Fracking.

Susan Sarandon Smashes Hillary Clinton On The Nightly Show OR A Look At Bernie Sanders Political Talking Points

HC: and who have the views that the Koch brothers have had for so many years, so I'm gonna stay focused on what I'm doing right now. 

Such as continuing with your support of the pipeline the Koch Brothers have so desperately wanted (Hillary is obviously lying and this information is too easily accessible for Maddow not to be doing a cover up job)

Related: The 5 Takes Hillary Clinton has had on the Keystone Pipeline (CNN) as she is pressured by Bernie Sanders to tun away from helping the Koch Brothers (if it wasn't for Bernie Sanders she would be supporting Koch Brothers Keystone pipeline right now ... and I'm sure she has said she would support it to them privately... maybe expect further endorsements from the Koch Brothers for GOP Establishment's Hillary Clinton?

HC: But I'm gonna keep making the case to the American people about what I think we need to do right now to try to make sure we have broad-based prosperity, that we create opportunities for every American, get back to the basic bargain that I believe in, that if you work hard, you should get ahead and stay ahead, and your family should be coming right along with you. 

The way people got ahead with her & her Ex-President husbands NAFTA plans, which Obama talked about and everyone in the media forgot this year? Here is a review;

Even Obama Wouldn't Trust Hillary Clinton With Trade Agreements Such As NAFTA & The TPP (& Obama Negotiated ON The TPP In Secret!)

MADDOW: When you -- when you say you shouldn't make promises that you can't keep -- I know that you've reiterated that a number of times on the stand (ph), are you talking about about Senator Sanders when you say that?
CLINTON: Well, I think that there certainly have been questions raised about the numbers not adding up for his college plan or his health care plan and those legitimate questions that people have to be able to ask and answer.  

The point here is DIRECTION for the country and party. A few numbers not adding up doesn't mean the policy direction isn't right. For example, Bernie Sanders may not have got the numbers right on Israel's mass murder tactics BUT he got the sentiment right. In detail;

Trevor Noah Messes Up On The Importance Of A Few Mistaken Numbers By Bernie Sanders. What Matters Is The DIRECTION Bernie Sanders Is Taking.

What Bernie Sanders (A Jew) Said About Israel To The Treasonous Daily News Is True & Reflects A Bigger Cultural Issue... Our Indifference To Mass Murdering Innocent People In Other Countries (Particularly Colored Ones)

And again I would just refer to the New York Daily News interview which was a very long interview and certainly in New York people read it very carefully.  And it demonstrated that there weren't a lot of answers to some of the hard questions that were asked on both domestic and foreign policy.
And again I would like to point out that the New York Daily News interview was clearly a dishonest hit job by a person who contributes to Hillary's campaign and had declared before the interviews that they were endorsing Hillary. The general population of New York doesn't have the knowledge to debunk an interview hit job when even the interviewers couldn't keep their facts straight. Here is the research I've done of the Daily News deceptions;

The New York Daily News... ARE TRAITORS!

  • Daily News Decietful Interview With Hillary Clinton - Even Obama Said Hillary Was Incompetent To Be President (But Not In So Many Words)
  • Hillary Clinton Lied About The Daily News Interview With Bernie Sanders During Her MSNBC Townhall (That Interview By Daily News Was Hit Job More Than Anything Else)
  • This Daily News Trump Cover Exposes The Blindness We Have To Our Own Cultural Faults OR How The Political Establishment Embraces Genocide Of Colored People As Long As You Are Polite About It (Can't Tell Which *Shrug*)
  • The Daily News Has Committed Treason Against New York & America By Covering Up Essential Information From It's Readers!
  • Mayor De Blasio Says "It Was Satire I Was Mocking My Self" ... PROVING That The Daily News Did A Fluff Piece On Hillary (A Coverup) To Help Her Win NY
  • What Bernie Sanders (A Jew) Said About Israel To The Treasonous Daily News Is True & Reflects A Bigger Cultural Issue... Our Indifference To Mass Murdering Innocent People In Other Countries (Particularly Colored Ones)
  • Debunking The Daily News's "Sandy Hook Gun Manufacturer Argument" Attack On Bernie Sanders

But you'll have a chance to ask him about that.  I think my goal is to keep talking about what I believe will work and I have said I will not raise taxes on middle class families because too many Americans haven't even yet recovered from the great recession and I think we can do what we need to do without having to even look at that.  Instead, we ought to be looking at making the wealthy pay their share of supporting our country.
Yes, but moving jobs abroad puts a downward pressure on wages which is a kind of tax on the people's Welfare in favor of the welfare of the already establishment wealthy class. Related;

Hillary Is NOT A Progressive AND She Lies ALOT... BTW Does Anyone Really Believe She Will Reverse All Her Husbands Policies?

QUESTION: Will you say what role you would trust Senator Sanders in, in the Clinton administration?
CLINTON: Well, I can't answer that because obviously I don't have the nomination yet.  I'm not yet elected president but here's what I will say.  I'm already raising money for Democrats up and down the ballot.  I am dedicated to electing Democrats -- it's something that I've spent many years doing.  I am a Democrat and I want to see more Democrats elected from the small boroughs in Montgomery County to Philadelphia to across the country.  
True. She helps Democrats ... unless she has to win an election, such as the second term of her husbands. Then she and her hubby turn right ("super predators") to win since it's not like the Democratic party can renominate a person who is already President. That's when she becomes Republican. Won't be the first time she's done this.

Hillary Is Not Qualified Because She Always Makes Atrocious Decisions That Pull The Country To The Right, NOT The Left & Harm Citizens Over Business Interests

MADDOW: Can I ask you as a follow-on to that.  It said at the outset that a lot of people have talked about Senator Sanders kind of putting his mark on the Democratic party.  Are we raising (ph) questions whether that's happening?  How will you change the Democratic party?
CLINTON: Right now majority of states are run by Republican governors and we see what they're doing.  On choice, on voting rights, on LGBT rights.  It makes a difference so my job will be to make sure that the Democratic party is producing results through our elected officials, electing more Democrats and then convincing our supporters to turn out and vote in midterm elections.

That's a crazy plan. No one but turns up for midterms. Shows she is making stuff up that she know will not work. Anyways, more hypocrisy here too;

Hillary & Bill Clinton Make BAD Decisions 3 - Against & THEN For LGBT Rights

MADDOW: Welcome back to Philadelphia.  Welcome back to our MSNBC town hall with Democratic frontrunner, Hillary Clinton.  Let's stick with some more questions from our audience.  We've got (Evalisse Pilates) here.  She's a Democrat and she is undecided in this race.  Hi.
QUESTION: Hi, Secretary Clinton.  I was born and raised in Harlem, New York to parents who struggled and suffered from drug abuse and poverty.  Like many black women, most of the men in my family have been in jail.  When I was born, my father held me and he said, "you're going to get an education," because like you he believed that education was the great equalizer.
So I went to college, graduated with honors, I'm a practicing attorney and despite the fact that I'm intelligent, articulate and ambitious I face racial discrimination as a member of a profession that's almost 90 percent white.  My question for you is, what as president you would do -- what initiatives, programs you would institute to address the racial and systemic racism that still exists and predates the glass ceiling for many twentysomethings like me?
CLINTON: Well, you are absolutely right.  We are still facing and struggling with systemic racism.  It's true in employment and promotion and other job opportunities.  It's true in education, it's true in health care, it's true in the criminal justice system.  That's why I talk about breaking down all the barriers.  We have economic barriers to be sure but we have very entrenched barriers of discrimination.

This just makes me laugh;

Article: The betrayal that should haunt Hillary Clinton: How she sold out working women & then never apologized - As Clinton's campaign lambastes Bernie Sanders for perceived sexism, we should take a hard look at her own record
Hillary Clinton holds the great promise of becoming the first woman elected to the presidency. Recently, many of her partisans have accused her main opponent, Bernie Sanders, of sexism. Sanders, defending his gun control record, said that “all the shouting in the world” wouldn’t stop the violence; Clinton responded that “I haven’t been shouting, but sometimes when a woman speaks out, some people think it’s shouting.”In the second incident, Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver, poking fun at their underdog status, joked that Clinton would “make a great vice president.” He continued: “We’re willing to give her more credit than Obama did. We’re willing to consider her for vice president. We’ll give her serious consideration. We’ll even interview her.” In response, Emily’s List President Stephanie Schriock tweeted that the comment was a “condescending insult by a team who knows better. Hillary is possibly most qualified ever to run & Americans know it.”Those two smears don’t convince as sexist. By contrast, examine Hillary Clinton’s comments defending welfare reform, assembled by Buzzfeed, in the late 1990s and early 2000s: Clinton wrote that “too many of those on welfare had known nothing but dependency all their lives.” She suggested that women recipients were “sitting around the house doing nothing.” She described the “move from welfare to work” as “the transition from dependency to dignity.” Or a “substitute dignity for dependence.” Put more simply, she stated, “these people are no longer deadbeats—they’re actually out there being productive.”
In sum, she has frequently validated a pathologization of poor black women that has often served as a pretext for Republican assaults on the social safety net. She has not repudiated these remarks.Indeed, Clinton has long embraced welfare reform, a policy more hostile to women than almost any other enacted recent decades. Passed by a Republican Congress, the bill was signed in 1996 by President Bill Clinton, eager to make good on his pledge to “end welfare as we know it.”What that meant was a five-year federal limit on receiving welfare. States, which henceforth received funding as a block grant, were incentivized to set even stricter limits. States that kicked people off the rolls could spend the money elsewhere, and they have. States could also evade job participation requirements by kicking people of the rolls. Whether the gutting of welfare was a cynical political calculation (Clinton’s penchant for “triangulation”) or derived from deep-seated belief likely has made little difference to the poor women, often black women, cut off from government aid.In 1996, the number of families receiving Aid to Families with Dependent Children was 4.5 million, according to Fred Block and Frances Fox Piven. In 2009, as economic crisis set in, just 1.7 million families were accessing Temporary Aid to Needy Families, AFDC’s eviscerated replacement. That’s a cut of 62 percent. According to a recent Harper’s story by Virginia Sole-Smith, “For every hundred families with children that are living in poverty, sixty-eight were able to access cash assistance before Bill Clinton’s welfare reform. By 2013, that number had fallen to twenty-six.”TANF block grants were not set to adjust for inflation and, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the program’s buying power has declined by more than a third since 1997.As welfare reform shredded the social safety net, other Clinton Administration policies buttressed corporate and Wall Street power. The shift from good-paying manufacturing jobs to horribly compensated cashier work in the service industry accelerated. Wall Street went on to tank the global economy. When the bottom fell out, there was little to catch poor people falling hard to the ground. As Ron Haskins, a Brookings Institution senior fellow who played a key role in welfare reform, put it, “any mom who does not have the ability to maintain her household and work at the same time is going to have trouble.”And so they have, as Sole-Smith’s story describes in painful detail.In the 1990s, for what it’s worth, Sanders condemned welfare reform efforts as combining “an assault on the poor, women and children, minorities, and immigrants,” and “the grand slam of scapegoating legislation” that “appeals to the frustrations and ignorance of the American people along a wide spectrum of prejudices.”Clinton’s paternalism should not surprise. The entire enterprise of welfare reform was paternalistic, premised on the idea that poor people, especially poor black women, are poor because they don’t want to work; in reality, poor people, especially poor black women, are mostly poor because there aren’t enough jobs, too many of those that exist pay horribly, and childcare is too expensive. Rampant job discrimination and segregation in housing and education sets poor people on a path to economic marginalization. What follows is political demonization.“Nearly half of welfare recipients were non-white, so the attack on welfare fit nicely into the larger Republican effort to discredit the Democratic Party by associating it with blacks and liberalism,” writes Block and Piven.Welfare reform was a harsh repudiation of the notion that women’s work caring for children was just that: work. Reagan invented the idea of the welfare queen. But it was the Clintons who actually took welfare away.

CLINTON: It is not only wrong but it is holding us back because for every young woman like yourself -- ready, willing, able to get to work who is held back that not only hurts you, it hurts us.  We want as productive a society as possible.  So we have to enforce the civil rights law.  We have to use the bully pulpit which I intend to use to speak out about systemic racism every chance I get -- to talk to organizations like the American Bar Association in your case as a lawyer.  To speak up and say, "we still have work to do."

She already used the bully pulpit to push the 1994 crime bill and got these VERY effective results (decimating the black "super predator" communities)

What Hillary accomplished with her 'bully pulpit' but directed at black people (last time she had access to the bully pulpit, i.e. it's too risky to let her near it again);
Politifact: A ‘tough-on-crime environment’
As Jones suggests, the United States has the highest incarceration rate among developed nations, at around 700 prisoners per 100,000 people.
African-Americans in particular are locked up at disproportionate rates. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 37 percent of the 1.5 million men in state and federal prisons in 2013 were black, more than twice the percentage of their share of the population.
It wasn’t always this high; before 1975, the incarceration rate hovered around 200 prisoners.
Some of the growth had to do with Clinton policies, but experts said not all.
Crime policy during the 1970s and 1980s was driven by the "

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