In this conversation, Lauren Goode, Michael Calore, and Kate Knibbs discuss their experiences at the Pitchfork music festival. Kate shares that her son attended the festival for the first time, but they had to leave after two hours. They mention Puja Patel, a friend who was recently featured on their podcast, and Michael recommends a movie called How to Blow Up a Pipeline. He describes it as a low-budget film about a group of people who go to the desert to destroy a pipeline in order to draw attention to the climate crisis. The movie explores their convictions, sacrifices, and motivations. Michael believes the film is timely and urgent, although he clarifies that it does not encourage or endorse violence.