Get Even More Visitors To Your Blog, Upgrade To A Business Listing >>

MGoPodcast 15.19: Casula, Mammula, and Don Shula

MGoPodcast 15.19: Casula, Mammula, and Don Shula
BlueBarron

1 hour and 44 minutes

The Sponsors

Thank you to Underground Printing for making this all possible. Rishi and Ryan have been our biggest supporters from the beginning. Check out their wide selection of officially licensed Michigan fan gear at their 3 store locations in Ann Arbor or learn about their custom apparel business at undergroundshirts.com.

Our associate sponsors are: Peak Wealth Management, Matt Demorest - Realtor and Lender, Ann Arbor Elder Law, Michigan Law Grad, The Phil Klein Insurance Group, Winewood Organics, Human Element, Sharon's Heating & Air Conditioning, Venue by 4M where we recorded this, The Nose Bleeds, which is the Sklars Bros’ reboot of Cheap Seats on UFC Fight Pass, Autograph: Fandom Rewarded, who just launched an app where you earn rewards for things like reading MGoBlog and listening to this podcast, and introducing Champions Circle, the NIL fund keeping our team together.

1. Coaches and Vibes

Starts at 1:00

Some of us would like to continue basking in the glory of the national championship and some (Brian) acknowledge that we must move on and start looking into the next season. There have already been some coaching changes since the last podcast. Wink Martindale's defense isn't that different from the Ravens defense (and it is not the Don Brown defense). Defensive line will still be elite, the big question is depth. Michigan's got too many safeties and not enough corners, move some? It's looking like Greg Scruggs, the Wisconsin defensive line coach, will be coming over. Linebackers coach positions is fuzzy. A lot of Michigan's offensive philosophy was probably coming from Sherrone Moore and Kirk Campbell so having that continuity is huge. Sherrone is helping tremendously at keep the team and culture together. 

[The rest of the writeup and the player after THE JUMP]

2. 2024 Offense Part 1

Starts at 28:41

Who is the quarterback and what is the philosophy of this offense? Between Kalel Mullings, Donovan Edwards, Semaj Morgan, Colston Loveland, Max Bredeson, and Tyler Morris, there's a lot coming back to play with. How do you pass the ball with Alex Orji at quarterback and what is the run/pass split? If not Alex Orji at quarterback, then who? Even though they turn over the entire offensive line, the backups are upper classmen so it might be a Wisconsin situation where it's just the next line up. 

3. Hot Takes and 2024 Offense Part 2

Starts at 47:58

Takes hotter than Keisei Tominaga (and that's the only mention of basketball on this podcast). If you want continuity with the offense, do you make Kalel Mullings RB1? How much should Donovan Edwards motion out as a receiver? What are the alternatives at QB if you go with Alex Orji and it doesn't work out? Jayden Denegal is probably the floor and he's Wilton Speight. Making a case for why the offensive line will be good again, ideally Andrew Gentry is the left tackle. Tyler Morris will be a good WR2 (behind whoever they motion out between Donovan Edwards or Colston Loveland). 

4. Hockey vs Michigan State

Starts at 1:29:51

Michigan has a sad hockey weekend and gets swept by Michigan State, losing the Iron D. These teams played fairly evenly but Michigan State has a goalie that can bail them out and Michigan doesn't. Michigan needs to be able to out-score their mistakes but they can't right now. Michigan basketball exists, goodbye! 
 

MUSIC:

  • “Olivia”— Wolves of Glendale
  • “Flamingos - CARRTOONS"
  • “City Slicker”—  Ginger Root
  • “Across 110th Street”
THE USUAL LINKS:
  • Helpful iTunes subscribe link
  • General podcast feed link
  • Direct Download Link
  • What's with the theme music?

"They're NIMBY'ing the alleys where people throw up after going to Rick's"

Beaublue

February 12th, 2024 at 8:27 AM ^

I'm assuming that calling Denegal a Wilton Speight is meant to be an insult?  Other than they both are tall how do we know that they are comparable?   It seems to me that Orgi played more just to be a runner a couple of times of day, but was he really ahead of Denegal on the depth chart?   Did Orgi complete a pass all year? 

In reply to I'm assuming that calling… by Beaublue

Watching From Afar

February 12th, 2024 at 8:50 AM ^

Here's his recruiting profile from Seth that compares him to Speight: https://mgoblog.com/content/2022-recruiting-jayden-denegal

Both were ~450 in the recruiting rankings. Tall, not the most athletic (Speight was derpy and Denegal had bad weight), and both kind of have a weird hitch in their throwing motion.

As for Orji, I don't think he's thrown a pass during a live game in college.

In reply to Here's his recruiting… by Watching From Afar

lhglrkwg

February 12th, 2024 at 2:46 PM ^

Yeah I would take a Speight comparison as saying he has limitations but he can top out at a B+/A- college QB which is all this brand of Michigan really needs. I'd happily take another Speight

In reply to I'm assuming that calling… by Beaublue

willirwin1778

February 12th, 2024 at 9:04 AM ^

Correct me if I am wrong, but Speight's career was pretty much impacted by an upper body injury.  I thought he flashed some potential up until that point, so I doubt it is an insult.  

In reply to I'm assuming that calling… by Beaublue

PopeLando

February 12th, 2024 at 9:30 AM ^

Wilton Speight was on a very upward trajectory until his injury.

He also had 1) the best deep ball we’ve seen at Michigan in the Harbaugh era, by a mile, maybe the best since Chad Henne or Navarre (yes, better than JJ McCarthy), and 2) a magical ability to evade the first pass rusher, despite being of, ummm, *limited* athleticism 

QBs can be broken. God knows we all learned that lesson in 2017. But Speight had a chance to be amazing before he got injured and was never the same player again.

In reply to Wilton Speight was on a very… by PopeLando

UMQuadz05

February 12th, 2024 at 10:54 AM ^

There was nothing "magical" about it...dude was a HOSS and blitzers would literally bounce off of him.  

In reply to Wilton Speight was on a very… by PopeLando

meeashagin

February 12th, 2024 at 1:41 PM ^

JJ not throwing the deep ball was a schematic decision. There's plenty of teams that refuse to throw it now because its almost always a wasted down.

If you have a QB that can complete underneath passes at an incredible rate with an elite running games its almost as if you could have one of the most efficient offense in college football.

Let's not forget Michigan tackles pass pro was as bad as it gets. 73 vs Washington got beat immediately on almost every pass play.

In reply to JJ not throwing the deep… by meeashagin

lhglrkwg

February 12th, 2024 at 2:50 PM ^

edit: changed my mind

In reply to I'm assuming that calling… by Beaublue

Blau

February 12th, 2024 at 11:55 AM ^

Also, if Morris is WR2, who is WR1 and why?

If you say S. Morgan, we’re gonna have a bad time because although he has done a hell of a great job in his Steve Breaston impersonation, there’s a few other WRs I’d like to see him model his pass-catching game after before he’s announced as the top WR.

If anyone is WR1, it has to Loveland just based on film. 

In reply to Also, if Morris is WR2, who… by Blau

Watching From Afar

February 12th, 2024 at 1:38 PM ^

WR is a massive blinking yellow light. The entire passing game is really when you account for how the team is built right now and how it generally operates. Run first, fine, but when that run game isn't bashing team's into the center of the earth things get hairy real quick from a straight drop back perspective.

There are issues at every level of the passing game to varying degrees, but it spans volume, scheme, talent, and execution.

Volume wise, they just don't throw the ball enough to attract the WR (and to a degree QB) talent that could elevate the passing game.

Scheme wise they have issues getting guys open consistently. There are stretches where they can run Morgan on a deep post that's open for a TD against Bama or run Wilson on some motion to get him a quick 6 yard out. But you also have to look at the Washington game where guys were blanketed on a 3rd down (I think) where every WR was completely covered and every guy basically ran a 6 yard route (curl, pivot, and out). Maryland in 2022 running basically 4 verts into Cover 8 like 3 times giving JJ nothing to throw to. Guys got pressed off the field entirely or zones would cause confusion.

Talent again, not great, however Wilson and CJ tore up the Senior Bowl to a degree so it's odd that they could get completely wiped out of a game rather often. They also don't really develop talent all that well. Wilson got better over the years but CJ didn't. Clemons had the physical tools but never turned into anything. Anthony we all remember. Bell probably hit his ceiling given his size and physical traits, but still. They also kind of struggled with pass pro from time to time. Barnhart was a turnstile against good DEs. Henderson struggled this year for stretches as well. Before him they had Jones who just had mental lapses in '22 before his injury. Hayes was pretty good, but not great.

Execution sprinkles in across all of this. CJ puts a DB in a blender and JJ rips it 4 feet over his head. Guys end up 3 yards apart from one another or right in the passing lane (the 3rd down before the Corum conversion against Bama). Just weird stuff that doesn't look right.

Also, does anyone remember the last time they ran a straight go route? Like a Nico Collins, fuck you I'm going to catch this ball, 50/50 ball? think it was Edwards this year in the OOC schedule, but other than that I remember Baldwin against Wisconsin in '21? Maybe 1 or 2 after that. This kind of plays into the volume and scheme thing, but they haven't figured out how to use Edwards consistently in 3 years (injuries played a part in that) and while Loveland is really good, they also just don't spam the "throw him the ball button" when he gets LBs who can't keep up with him.

In reply to Also, if Morris is WR2, who… by Blau

Quailman

February 12th, 2024 at 2:34 PM ^

"Also, if Morris is WR2, who is WR1 and why?

If anyone is WR1, it has to Loveland just based on film. "

This is literally what they say and it is typed in the recap. 

They are saying he's the #2 guy in the passing game not the #2 guy at the position

In reply to I'm assuming that calling… by Beaublue

WFNY_DP

February 12th, 2024 at 2:01 PM ^

I think the biggest issue is that a fair amount of the offense this past season was predicated on the fact that McCarthy could run a bit, both in terms of escaping pressure and in being a running threat out of the backfield to make defenses spend a guy in the box on him (or two guys, we see you 2022 OSU). With a Speight-like player, that threat is non-existent.

willirwin1778

February 12th, 2024 at 8:50 AM ^

Regarding blitzing, if I read the charts Seth put up correctly, the annual blitz variability in the Martindale defense was significant enough to indicate that his blitz frequency is variable year to year and could change again moving forward.  

enlightenedbum

February 12th, 2024 at 9:10 AM ^

Orji related item of interest:

He, Ben Hall, and Cristian Dixon were guest judges at Pioneer's Future Stars singing competition Saturday night (great show if you're an AA resident, our high school kids are crazy talented).  Corum guest judged it last year.  Anyway, the three of them had music takes that weren't quite on the level of the School of Music professor or Tony Award winner Gavin Creel, but pretty sophisticated to my ear.

Also Orji is a giant Adele fan.

OldSchoolWolverine

February 12th, 2024 at 9:31 AM ^

Brain, how can you leave out TOMSULA from Casula, Mammula, and Don Shula ?

In reply to Brain, how can you leave out… by OldSchoolWolverine

Seth

February 12th, 2024 at 11:54 AM ^

Did you listen to that segment? He explicitly denied my Tomsula as DL coach idea. Off-air I also suggested Ameer Abdullah as RB coach if needed.

taistreetsmyhero

February 12th, 2024 at 9:33 AM ^

Call me a cynic, but it seems premature to make predictions for next year based on the current roster because of all the unexpected coaching losses and the looming spring portal.

In reply to Call me a cynic, but it… by taistreetsmyhero

MightyMatt13

February 12th, 2024 at 11:03 AM ^

It's Feb and we love content, I'll allow it



This post first appeared on Mgoblog, please read the originial post: here

Share the post

MGoPodcast 15.19: Casula, Mammula, and Don Shula

×

Subscribe to Mgoblog

Get updates delivered right to your inbox!

Thank you for your subscription

×