WTKA Roundtable 1/25/2024: The Age of Culture DudesSeth
Things Discussed:
Seth is on early to talk about the Lions, relates it to Harbaugh/Sherrone Moore: Dan Campbell is a culture guy, and that's a hole that the NFL left when it shifted to playcallers as head coaches.
Harbaugh to NFL: Seems the program is set through 2024, need to figure out their plan for 2025.
Where were you when you heard? I was about to start the final boss fight of a very long D&D campaign.
Expected? Yeah, said so in the previews. Michigan tried but Harbaugh was going to take a good NFL deal. When in history has someone gotten a successful NFL coach to come back and coach their college team for 9 years? This was the deal. There is no Super Bowl at Michigan.
Sherrone? Yes. When? They have to wait 7 days but will probably apply for a waiver so it could happen in a week or tomorrow.
Leaving: Minter, probably Jay Harbaugh. Brian: Spread your wings, Jay. Seth: He's not that kind of guy, but he may be the kind of guy who loves Michigan enough to want to stay. Herbert? There is nothing in the NFL for him like there is at Michigan, but Seth is worried because Bruce Feldman says Harbaugh plans to take him.
Staying: Clink (AHC?), Bellamy, Hart, Robinson, Campbell to OC, Newsome to OL coach. Need to find a DC, an LB guy, and new special teams coach. Is there a 3rd Skywalker on the Ravens (Orr?) or another guy that Minter and Macdonald know? Jim Leonard: No. Brian has good dude concerns because he couldn't do better than an analyst for Bert (Note: Leonard has a buyout from Wisconsin that would have been voided if he got a DC job but that shouldn't have mattered; knifing Chryst in the back seems to matter). Need to stay ahead of Ohio State in the metagame.
OSU: They could have gotten a guy as good as Caleb Downs if they'd just recruited Rod Moore out of their own backyard. This is what they're up against. Ohio State has always been the program that will do anything in the world to beat Michigan, and they're never going to stop that.
Is it bad for CFB that there's no Harbaugh and Saban anymore? Only if you're the person in charge of getting instant clicks by putting someone's name in the headline. What makes college football special isn't the character head coaches; it's the unique connection the fans have to their players.
Hockey: Young team that doesn't have the depth to overcome mistakes in a very tough league.
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You can catch the entire episode on Michigan Insider's podcast stream.
Seth & Craig were on early here. Segment 2 is here. You can watch the video here:
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He didn't even get the Nick Saban; he's working for Bert!
Hi, as a large D&D nerd I would love to hear about your battle vs the bbeg. Now Im pining for a 5 minute 'this month in Seth's campaign' segment.
GeraldFord48
January 25th, 2024 at 10:52 AM
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Agreed! Seth, you should totally write this! I'll gladly make a persuasion check if you are unconvinced.
Logan88
January 25th, 2024 at 12:23 PM
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Bypass the persuasion check and just cast Charm Person.
dragonchild
January 26th, 2024 at 10:38 AM
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FWIW, I once threatened to UFR his role-playing.
Logan88
January 25th, 2024 at 12:22 PM
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I would be down for this only if I can be assured that Seth does NOT see the DM as a "storyteller." Old-school DMs only please.
#B/XDnD4Eva #AD&DRulz #JustSayNOToCritcalRole
Seth
January 25th, 2024 at 12:57 PM
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I'm just a noob who got into this after a 2020 Gimmicky Top Five prompt of what are you afraid of getting into with no football during covid. MGoUser dragonchild invited me to his group.
If you must know, we're killing Strahd. I'm a forge cleric whose job is mostly to stand around with an aura.
As to my playing style, I love storytelling as much as I love the mathematics that resolve into the story. But I also love my job which doesn't have an off button. So when I play I've usually got Roll20 in one window, a football game in another, and either my charting or my notes in a third.
kehnonymous
January 25th, 2024 at 2:01 PM
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Harbaugh - definitely a paladin, given his professed spiritualism and rigid moral code. The inherent Lay on Hands ability was pretty clearly vital to buffing his quarterbacks.
JJ McCarty - A bard. Charisma to spare, and his bardic inspiration brings out the best in others. Bards' jack-of-all-trades feature and multiple skills proficiency is reflected in his dual threat ability to threaten with his arm and legs.
Rod Moore - Wood elf ranger. Wood elves because of the mobility bonus. Ranger, because they are equally adept at doing damage in melee and from afar, befitting Moore being great at both run support and pass defense. Additionally, as a ranger, Moore gains advantage on tracking and Survival checks against his preferred enemy (Ohio St)
Donovan Edwards - sorcerer. Not quite as much day-to-day utility as a wizard, but an innately talent spellcaster with the ability to inflict huge amounts of damage from far away.
Blake Corum - rogue, mostly because of the evasion abilities, and access to Dash and Disengage as bonus actions each round
Mason Graham - barbarian, juggernaut speciality. Self-explanatory. Impossible to knock down and moves enemies backwards on contested Strength checks
elm
January 25th, 2024 at 2:31 PM
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Mike Sainristil: warlock. Made a pact with some powerful creature enabling him to come out of nowhere to play both offense and defense at a high level. Also very charismatic. Also only needs to sleep for an hour before getting all his abilities back. OK, I might be making up that last one.
nerv
January 25th, 2024 at 3:24 PM
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Im down with anyone willing to put the time and effort into DM'ing. Its just good to have fun with friends.
Colt Burgess
January 25th, 2024 at 10:42 AM
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Harbaugh would be the fourth coach to win at both levels, joining Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, and Pete Carroll. What Jimmy Johnson did was really impressive. Switzer was handed a great team.
rc90
January 25th, 2024 at 11:07 AM
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At the time some pundit said Switzer was getting a new Cadillac, and as long he got the oil changed, it would run fine for a few years.
caliblue
January 25th, 2024 at 2:08 PM
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Could not agree more. Must be nice to know an owner who will hand you a super bowl ready team you have to try REALLY hard to f#%$ up , but he did try
SlickNick
January 25th, 2024 at 10:45 AM
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Haven't had the chance to listen yet...curious about thoughts on Clink as DC? I thought I remember reading he was brought in as sort of a DC in waiting.
JR3410
January 25th, 2024 at 11:01 AM
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The next thing Bruce Feldman is right about will be the first thing he is right about. Its amazing to me how much "credibility" this guy has.
MgoWood
January 25th, 2024 at 12:09 PM
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Perceived clout he has with the media. Just like the weather(wo)men out there. Getting paid to just say something. I'll take that for $500 Alex.
bighouseinmate
January 25th, 2024 at 11:05 AM
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I have previously liked the idea of Leonhard as DC, assuming Minter goes with Harbaugh. But after looking through the raven’s defensive coaching staff, Zachary Orr looks like an intriguing possibility that can come on and continue the defensive philosophy. He also coaches LBs so that could be a bonus hire. Make Elston or Clinkscale the assistant DC to keep them on staff and then go find a young guy for safeties coach. That has the makings for continuity and consistency for the defense.
Michigan4Life
January 25th, 2024 at 11:20 AM
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Apparently, Leonhard doesn't like recruiting and doesn't want to leave Madison, and he may be the favorite to take the GB DC position since LaFleur was one of his top choice before they settled on Joe Barry.
jdemille9
January 25th, 2024 at 11:53 AM
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Doesn't he work for Illinois now? Which, last I checked, was not in Madison, WI.
Michigan4Life
January 25th, 2024 at 12:11 PM
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He's an analyst for Illinois. I don't know if he's required to move to Illinois since it's not a coaching position. I've heard his family still lives in Madison FWIW
LDNfan
January 25th, 2024 at 11:44 AM
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Clink has been "assistant DC
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nerv
January 25th, 2024 at 10:42 AM ^
Hi, as a large D&D nerd I would love to hear about your battle vs the bbeg. Now Im pining for a 5 minute 'this month in Seth's campaign' segment.
Joined: 04/14/2009
MGoPoints: 13659
GeraldFord48
January 25th, 2024 at 10:52 AM ^
Agreed! Seth, you should totally write this! I'll gladly make a persuasion check if you are unconvinced.
Joined: 07/24/2019
MGoPoints: 7772
Logan88
January 25th, 2024 at 12:23 PM ^
Bypass the persuasion check and just cast Charm Person.
Joined: 01/05/2009
MGoPoints: 8025
dragonchild
January 26th, 2024 at 10:38 AM ^
FWIW, I once threatened to UFR his role-playing.
Joined: 10/13/2011
MGoPoints: 57512
Logan88
January 25th, 2024 at 12:22 PM ^
I would be down for this only if I can be assured that Seth does NOT see the DM as a "storyteller." Old-school DMs only please.
#B/XDnD4Eva #AD&DRulz #JustSayNOToCritcalRole
Joined: 01/05/2009
MGoPoints: 8025
Seth
January 25th, 2024 at 12:57 PM ^
I'm just a noob who got into this after a 2020 Gimmicky Top Five prompt of what are you afraid of getting into with no football during covid. MGoUser dragonchild invited me to his group.
If you must know, we're killing Strahd. I'm a forge cleric whose job is mostly to stand around with an aura.
As to my playing style, I love storytelling as much as I love the mathematics that resolve into the story. But I also love my job which doesn't have an off button. So when I play I've usually got Roll20 in one window, a football game in another, and either my charting or my notes in a third.
Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 147765
kehnonymous
January 25th, 2024 at 2:01 PM ^
Harbaugh - definitely a paladin, given his professed spiritualism and rigid moral code. The inherent Lay on Hands ability was pretty clearly vital to buffing his quarterbacks.
JJ McCarty - A bard. Charisma to spare, and his bardic inspiration brings out the best in others. Bards' jack-of-all-trades feature and multiple skills proficiency is reflected in his dual threat ability to threaten with his arm and legs.
Rod Moore - Wood elf ranger. Wood elves because of the mobility bonus. Ranger, because they are equally adept at doing damage in melee and from afar, befitting Moore being great at both run support and pass defense. Additionally, as a ranger, Moore gains advantage on tracking and Survival checks against his preferred enemy (Ohio St)
Donovan Edwards - sorcerer. Not quite as much day-to-day utility as a wizard, but an innately talent spellcaster with the ability to inflict huge amounts of damage from far away.
Blake Corum - rogue, mostly because of the evasion abilities, and access to Dash and Disengage as bonus actions each round
Mason Graham - barbarian, juggernaut speciality. Self-explanatory. Impossible to knock down and moves enemies backwards on contested Strength checks
Joined: 11/25/2011
MGoPoints: 31665
elm
January 25th, 2024 at 2:31 PM ^
Mike Sainristil: warlock. Made a pact with some powerful creature enabling him to come out of nowhere to play both offense and defense at a high level. Also very charismatic. Also only needs to sleep for an hour before getting all his abilities back. OK, I might be making up that last one.
Joined: 05/11/2011
MGoPoints: 1608
nerv
January 25th, 2024 at 3:24 PM ^
Im down with anyone willing to put the time and effort into DM'ing. Its just good to have fun with friends.
Joined: 04/14/2009
MGoPoints: 13659
Colt Burgess
January 25th, 2024 at 10:42 AM ^
Harbaugh would be the fourth coach to win at both levels, joining Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, and Pete Carroll. What Jimmy Johnson did was really impressive. Switzer was handed a great team.
Joined: 02/20/2021
MGoPoints: 12358
rc90
January 25th, 2024 at 11:07 AM ^
At the time some pundit said Switzer was getting a new Cadillac, and as long he got the oil changed, it would run fine for a few years.
Joined: 02/15/2016
MGoPoints: 7800
caliblue
January 25th, 2024 at 2:08 PM ^
Could not agree more. Must be nice to know an owner who will hand you a super bowl ready team you have to try REALLY hard to f#%$ up , but he did try
Joined: 11/02/2008
MGoPoints: 2114
SlickNick
January 25th, 2024 at 10:45 AM ^
Haven't had the chance to listen yet...curious about thoughts on Clink as DC? I thought I remember reading he was brought in as sort of a DC in waiting.
Joined: 09/28/2015
MGoPoints: 5653
JR3410
January 25th, 2024 at 11:01 AM ^
The next thing Bruce Feldman is right about will be the first thing he is right about. Its amazing to me how much "credibility" this guy has.
Joined: 08/04/2018
MGoPoints: 1640
MgoWood
January 25th, 2024 at 12:09 PM ^
Perceived clout he has with the media. Just like the weather(wo)men out there. Getting paid to just say something. I'll take that for $500 Alex.
Joined: 12/18/2014
MGoPoints: 3062
bighouseinmate
January 25th, 2024 at 11:05 AM ^
I have previously liked the idea of Leonhard as DC, assuming Minter goes with Harbaugh. But after looking through the raven’s defensive coaching staff, Zachary Orr looks like an intriguing possibility that can come on and continue the defensive philosophy. He also coaches LBs so that could be a bonus hire. Make Elston or Clinkscale the assistant DC to keep them on staff and then go find a young guy for safeties coach. That has the makings for continuity and consistency for the defense.
Joined: 12/19/2008
MGoPoints: 4682
Michigan4Life
January 25th, 2024 at 11:20 AM ^
Apparently, Leonhard doesn't like recruiting and doesn't want to leave Madison, and he may be the favorite to take the GB DC position since LaFleur was one of his top choice before they settled on Joe Barry.
Joined: 07/29/2010
MGoPoints: 24294
jdemille9
January 25th, 2024 at 11:53 AM ^
Doesn't he work for Illinois now? Which, last I checked, was not in Madison, WI.
Joined: 01/29/2011
MGoPoints: 7149
Michigan4Life
January 25th, 2024 at 12:11 PM ^
He's an analyst for Illinois. I don't know if he's required to move to Illinois since it's not a coaching position. I've heard his family still lives in Madison FWIW
Joined: 07/29/2010
MGoPoints: 24294
LDNfan
January 25th, 2024 at 11:44 AM ^
Clink has been "assistant DC