A Michigan Family reunion. If you've never been to a Rose Bowl, make sure you do the next one.
Michigan won on the lines. Trente Jones was excellent. Karsen Barnhart made the block of the game. When they had to go for 4th & 1 they moved them; when it was 4th & 2 for the game Alabama had to sell out.
Michigan used a ton of motion to create lots of openings.
Coaching: Alabama coaches were good; Michigan coaches were that much better. Two wide open throws to Corum. Saban ran into a buzzsaw.
Special Teams: Yips.
Talking about the last play: Did Sainristil get too high? Maybe. But Moore had it dead to rights even if they run it right.
Trente Jones: How important was it to the team that he came back. That he approached things like he did.
Harbaugh? Gonna have a fight on their hands. Gotta fight to keep this culture.
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Saban's problem is he was coaching players who weren't as good as the players across from them.
"Saban ran into a buzzsaw." Imagine if at this time 3 years ago someone came from the future and told you that sentence was referring to Michigan
lhglrkwg
January 4th, 2024 at 12:10 PM
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Time to power through some podcasts. I've got a lot of mgocontent to listen to before Monday
matty blue
January 4th, 2024 at 12:50 PM
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right? i get done with 2 1/2 hours of the gang, and when i go back to my player, there's the roundtable, waiting for me!
i'm not saying this is the best week, ever, but it's not NOT the best week ever, either.
jippolito
January 4th, 2024 at 12:12 PM
^
"Talking about the last play: Did Sainristil get too high? Maybe. But Moore had it dead to rights even if they run it right."
The pulling guard was going to pave Moore. Would've come down to Mike making the one-on-one play.
maizedNblued
January 4th, 2024 at 1:20 PM
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Mikey was definitely anticipating the flair pass but was in good enough position to still make a play on a QB draw - he played that perfectly - he is fully weaponized and needs to be used exactly the same way against Penix.
DY
January 4th, 2024 at 1:46 PM
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I agree. Alabama had that play blocked if Milroe follows his guard. Mike was too deep.
echoWhiskey
January 4th, 2024 at 1:51 PM
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I don't think the pulling guard gets to Moore; he overran him. Moore was already upfield of him and can probably still make the tackle if Milroe is able to run left. Two o-line mistakes on that play. Good thing we're just talking about hypotheticals here!
MadMatt
January 4th, 2024 at 12:13 PM
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At this point, I'm expecting Harbaugh to say mission accomplished, and jump to the NFL. I've made peace with it, and moving Coach Moore up to the big job, especially if they keep Coach Minter as DC, is a pretty good hand off. (I'd really like to keep Jay Harbaugh too, but he has Coordinator at another school written all over him; ditto Mike Hart.)
I hope like hell I'm wrong. There have been enough ambiguous signals from Harbaugh that I'm also prepared to be deliriously surprised. Either way, thank you Jim for your service.
HateSparty
January 4th, 2024 at 12:17 PM
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You don't see Hart in the O Coordinator role in that scenario? I'd see a Co-Coordinator with him and Campbell at least being considered. My worry would be O-Line. Moore is one of if not arguably the best in the NCAA.
Hotel Putingrad
January 4th, 2024 at 12:20 PM
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If Harbaugh leaves for LA or LV, he's taking Jay and Minter with him.
WampaStompa
January 4th, 2024 at 12:26 PM
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If we win on Monday, Harbaugh can do whatever he wants for all I care. He can ride off into the sunset or jump back to the NFL and go out on top as a Michigan legend forever. Warde's "believe me, we're trying" response about the contract situation, Harbaugh's noncommittal "I'm looking forward to a happy flight home" response when asked what his future holds, and potential NCAA punishments hanging over his head all point to him seriously considering an NFL job again.
lhglrkwg
January 4th, 2024 at 12:35 PM
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Even if we lose him, I'm fine with it. I don't want it, but it's fine
Go back to your 2014 self. Tell yourself "okay we get Harbaugh. He immediately makes Michigan good again, in 2021-2023 he finally gets over the hump and beats #2 OSU 3 straight times, wins the league 3 straight times, and goes to the CFP 3 straight times capping it with an incredible Rose Bowl win over Nick Saban and Alabama. We lose in the title game and Harbaugh returns to the NFL. You in?"
Yeah we're all taking it 100/100 times. I hope the insider rumors are true and Harbaugh really would like to stay, but if he goes it's mission accomplished in my mind. This is pretty much what we hoped Harbaugh would do here
rc90
January 4th, 2024 at 2:01 PM
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I might have taken that deal a week ago, but something important happened three days ago.
UofM Die Hard …
January 4th, 2024 at 12:37 PM
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Yaup, exactly, and everyone should feel this way. He wins a natty Monday, thank you for your service Jim, we will now build a statue soon. He came here and did it all, can't be mad about him leaving for NFL now.
I have some birds over here in the Pacific Northwest and I hear that Deboar wants the M job BAD, heard he has a contract in front of him for an extension but wont sign it due the love/want for the M job.
But I would be shocked if they didn't hand it over to Moore.
schreibee
January 4th, 2024 at 12:51 PM
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Should Harbaugh return to the NFL (and i predicted that after the initial school imposed suspension, long before the Stalions revelations) I'd LOVE it if they hired DeBoer! That's a gangster move, not a "Michigan Man" move! I'd also prefer Jedd over Sherrone.
While they played well enough to win vs psu, MD & osu, there's just a lot more that goes into the HC role than Moore has proven in 4 games (2 of which were the team's worst 2 performances of the season, fwiw).
I don't expect Michigan to do anything that outside the box, but man imagine how shook the bucknuts would be if they did!!!
alum96
January 4th, 2024 at 1:25 PM
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Very thankful for Moore but he was a substitute teacher for 4 days this year. The week was Harbaugh. I am not saying it was easy, but it does not reflect what it would be like to deal with parents, players, portal, alumni, boosters, politics all of it. Handing this over to someone with no HC experience seems very very risky. But probably what Warde would do vs opening it up to non Michigan men. :/
samsoccer7
January 4th, 2024 at 1:45 PM
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I get it, but I think it's a bit presumptuous to think Michigan will keep rolling if Harbaugh leaves. We don't know the secret sauce. We don't know what goes into player evaluations that has us unearthing gem after gem. Maybe Harbaugh has a great sense of what the kid and the family are about. Maybe he's able to tease out guys who are willing to do what it takes to see their teammates and team succeed. There's no way to know right now if that will continue.
OldSchoolWolverine
January 4th, 2024 at 12:13 PM
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I thought I saw Jones playing LT a few times.
Away Goal
January 4th, 2024 at 1:45 PM
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I saw him lined up on the left side at least once, but I think it may have technically been as a TE next to Henderson, with Hinton swapping in to take RT.
Erik_in_Dayton
January 4th, 2024 at 12:50 PM
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WampaStompa
January 4th, 2024 at 12:09 PM ^
"Saban ran into a buzzsaw." Imagine if at this time 3 years ago someone came from the future and told you that sentence was referring to Michigan
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lhglrkwg
January 4th, 2024 at 12:10 PM ^
Time to power through some podcasts. I've got a lot of mgocontent to listen to before Monday
Joined: 07/03/2008
MGoPoints: 82123
matty blue
January 4th, 2024 at 12:50 PM ^
right? i get done with 2 1/2 hours of the gang, and when i go back to my player, there's the roundtable, waiting for me!
i'm not saying this is the best week, ever, but it's not NOT the best week ever, either.
Joined: 08/01/2008
MGoPoints: 37612
jippolito
January 4th, 2024 at 12:12 PM ^
"Talking about the last play: Did Sainristil get too high? Maybe. But Moore had it dead to rights even if they run it right."
The pulling guard was going to pave Moore. Would've come down to Mike making the one-on-one play.
Joined: 03/22/2009
MGoPoints: 1161
maizedNblued
January 4th, 2024 at 1:20 PM ^
Mikey was definitely anticipating the flair pass but was in good enough position to still make a play on a QB draw - he played that perfectly - he is fully weaponized and needs to be used exactly the same way against Penix.
Joined: 11/25/2009
MGoPoints: 1408
DY
January 4th, 2024 at 1:46 PM ^
I agree. Alabama had that play blocked if Milroe follows his guard. Mike was too deep.
Joined: 07/01/2008
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echoWhiskey
January 4th, 2024 at 1:51 PM ^
I don't think the pulling guard gets to Moore; he overran him. Moore was already upfield of him and can probably still make the tackle if Milroe is able to run left. Two o-line mistakes on that play. Good thing we're just talking about hypotheticals here!
Joined: 06/30/2008
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MadMatt
January 4th, 2024 at 12:13 PM ^
At this point, I'm expecting Harbaugh to say mission accomplished, and jump to the NFL. I've made peace with it, and moving Coach Moore up to the big job, especially if they keep Coach Minter as DC, is a pretty good hand off. (I'd really like to keep Jay Harbaugh too, but he has Coordinator at another school written all over him; ditto Mike Hart.)
I hope like hell I'm wrong. There have been enough ambiguous signals from Harbaugh that I'm also prepared to be deliriously surprised. Either way, thank you Jim for your service.
Joined: 11/06/2013
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HateSparty
January 4th, 2024 at 12:17 PM ^
You don't see Hart in the O Coordinator role in that scenario? I'd see a Co-Coordinator with him and Campbell at least being considered. My worry would be O-Line. Moore is one of if not arguably the best in the NCAA.
Joined: 12/17/2014
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Hotel Putingrad
January 4th, 2024 at 12:20 PM ^
If Harbaugh leaves for LA or LV, he's taking Jay and Minter with him.
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WampaStompa
January 4th, 2024 at 12:26 PM ^
If we win on Monday, Harbaugh can do whatever he wants for all I care. He can ride off into the sunset or jump back to the NFL and go out on top as a Michigan legend forever. Warde's "believe me, we're trying" response about the contract situation, Harbaugh's noncommittal "I'm looking forward to a happy flight home" response when asked what his future holds, and potential NCAA punishments hanging over his head all point to him seriously considering an NFL job again.
Joined: 11/20/2018
MGoPoints: 2627
lhglrkwg
January 4th, 2024 at 12:35 PM ^
Even if we lose him, I'm fine with it. I don't want it, but it's fine
Go back to your 2014 self. Tell yourself "okay we get Harbaugh. He immediately makes Michigan good again, in 2021-2023 he finally gets over the hump and beats #2 OSU 3 straight times, wins the league 3 straight times, and goes to the CFP 3 straight times capping it with an incredible Rose Bowl win over Nick Saban and Alabama. We lose in the title game and Harbaugh returns to the NFL. You in?"
Yeah we're all taking it 100/100 times. I hope the insider rumors are true and Harbaugh really would like to stay, but if he goes it's mission accomplished in my mind. This is pretty much what we hoped Harbaugh would do here
Joined: 07/03/2008
MGoPoints: 82123
rc90
January 4th, 2024 at 2:01 PM ^
I might have taken that deal a week ago, but something important happened three days ago.
Joined: 02/15/2016
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UofM Die Hard …
January 4th, 2024 at 12:37 PM ^
Yaup, exactly, and everyone should feel this way. He wins a natty Monday, thank you for your service Jim, we will now build a statue soon. He came here and did it all, can't be mad about him leaving for NFL now.
I have some birds over here in the Pacific Northwest and I hear that Deboar wants the M job BAD, heard he has a contract in front of him for an extension but wont sign it due the love/want for the M job.
But I would be shocked if they didn't hand it over to Moore.
Joined: 03/10/2011
MGoPoints: 16909
schreibee
January 4th, 2024 at 12:51 PM ^
Should Harbaugh return to the NFL (and i predicted that after the initial school imposed suspension, long before the Stalions revelations) I'd LOVE it if they hired DeBoer! That's a gangster move, not a "Michigan Man" move! I'd also prefer Jedd over Sherrone.
While they played well enough to win vs psu, MD & osu, there's just a lot more that goes into the HC role than Moore has proven in 4 games (2 of which were the team's worst 2 performances of the season, fwiw).
I don't expect Michigan to do anything that outside the box, but man imagine how shook the bucknuts would be if they did!!!
Joined: 11/02/2009
MGoPoints: 19247
alum96
January 4th, 2024 at 1:25 PM ^
Very thankful for Moore but he was a substitute teacher for 4 days this year. The week was Harbaugh. I am not saying it was easy, but it does not reflect what it would be like to deal with parents, players, portal, alumni, boosters, politics all of it. Handing this over to someone with no HC experience seems very very risky. But probably what Warde would do vs opening it up to non Michigan men. :/
Joined: 04/28/2012
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samsoccer7
January 4th, 2024 at 1:45 PM ^
I get it, but I think it's a bit presumptuous to think Michigan will keep rolling if Harbaugh leaves. We don't know the secret sauce. We don't know what goes into player evaluations that has us unearthing gem after gem. Maybe Harbaugh has a great sense of what the kid and the family are about. Maybe he's able to tease out guys who are willing to do what it takes to see their teammates and team succeed. There's no way to know right now if that will continue.
Joined: 07/08/2008
MGoPoints: 11130
OldSchoolWolverine
January 4th, 2024 at 12:13 PM ^
I thought I saw Jones playing LT a few times.
Joined: 11/03/2013
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Away Goal
January 4th, 2024 at 1:45 PM ^
I saw him lined up on the left side at least once, but I think it may have technically been as a TE next to Henderson, with Hinton swapping in to take RT.
Joined: 08/19/2009
MGoPoints: 1289
Erik_in_Dayton
January 4th, 2024 at 12:50 PM