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Spring Roster Overanalysis 2023

Spring Roster Overanalysis 2023
Seth February 27th, 2023 at 11:59 AM
I wish I could get that excited about nothing.

The new phonebook's here, but since they don't list weight changes in spring there's even less than usual to glean from the updated rosters. The big notes:

  • Jalen Perry is gone.
  • Alessandro Lorenzetti moved to DL.
  • Kalel Mullings is an LB/RB. Order of the positions seems significant?

The new guys have numbers, and some of them have interesting weights. Also there were some position changes among younger players. So let's be thorough anyways.

DEPARTURES

One guy in Michigan remembers Perry. [Patrick Barron]

The only one that wasn't announced already was cornerback Jalen Perry. Can't say that's much of a surprise since he barely played in four years, and when he'd get mention it was behind all the freshmen. Aside from his special teams work (see photo above), he did get in as Michigan's backup nickel last year, in non-competitive situations.

Here's the the full list of guys not back from last year's roster, with destinations and years of eligibility remaining where applicable.

  • Quarterback: Cade McNamara (Iowa, 2), Alan Bowman (Oklahoma State, 1), and walk-ons Peyton Smith and Andy Maddox
  • Running Back: Everybody's back.
  • Wide Receiver: Ronnie Bell (NFL, 1), Andrel Anthony (Oklahoma, 2), Matthew Harrison
  • Tight End: Luke Schoonmaker (NFL, 1), Erick All (Iowa, 2), Joel Honigford, Louis Hansen (UConn, 3), and Carter Selzer.
  • Offensive Line: Olu Oluwatimi, Ryan Hayes (NFL, 1), Mica Gelb, and Kraig Correll
  • Defensive Tackle: Mazi Smith (NFL, 2), George Rooks (Boston College, 3)
  • Edge: Mike Morris (NFL, 2), Eyabi Okie (Charlotte, 1), Taylor Upshaw (Colorado, 1), Julius Welschof (Charlotte, 1)
  • Linebacker: Deuce Spurlock (Florida, 4), Ryan Zimmerman
  • Safety: Everybody's back.
  • Cornerback/Nickel: DJ Turner (NFL, 2), Gemon Green (NFL, 1), Jalen Perry (Unknown, 2), Jahre Fish.
  • Specialists: Jake Moody, Brad Robbins, and Rhett Anderson

POSITION CHANGES

Everybody give a demi-yay for for Mullings being an "LB/RB" now. [Bryan Fuller]

The big one everyone's talking about is Amorion Walker to cornerback. He's listed as a WR/DB on the roster.

The big one that we didn't know about is Alessandro Lorenzetti has been moved to defensive line in place of Dominick Giudice, whose move to offensive line was known about last year. I don't know what to make of Lorenzetti. This program does try its deep depth at other positions sometimes, if only to get them some snaps, and Lorenzetti came in more of a raw frame than a football player. It probably means they feel Lorenzetti is years away from helping on the offensive line, and that they want to shore up depth at defensive tackle after moving Giudice and coming up one guy short at the position in recruiting. It probably downgrades Lorenzetti's ceiling a few notches, since deep depth positions switches are often the first step to irrelevance (see: Jack Stewart, Phil Paea).

Of particular interest to me is Chibi Anwunah moving to tight end. Chibi was a super under-the-radar guy they found who's rumored to have Ojabo-level athleticism. Both positions require lots of it, but the fact that Elston was willing to let him try something else suggests he maybe preferred to focus on the almost-as-raw recruits he brought in.

Kalel Mullings is officially an "LB/RB." Half-Yay! issued:


Ya

It's interesting that they list LB first; that position is suddenly stacked, while he's probably the #3 guy at running back if that's his focus, with a clear path to starting next year if/when Corum/Edwards leave.

Micah Pollard moved from Edge to LB. This was something that happened during the season, since they needed linebackers, and he was always kind of a Jaylen Harrell-esque tweener.

Noah Stewart moved from OL to TE. Stewart was a 6'7"/283 offensive tackle last year, his fourth in the program. With a redshirt and a COVID year he's got a couple years left. Probably nothing, but he also could be their Honigford this season.

And for completion's sake, James Kavouklis is just a long-snapper now (lost his OL/ designation) and walk-on center Peter Simmons was moved to defensive tackle. He was a 6'2"/291 redshirt sophomore last year.

[After THE JUMP: The new numbers, weight changes, twelves.]

THE NEW GUYS HAVE NUMBERS TOO

An Edge wearing #5. Where have I seen that before? [UM Bentley Library]

Start making your edits on your NCAA 2014 rosters, unless your DVD like mine just crapped out when you went to boot it backup recently. Go ahead and fill the comments with advice on PS3 disks; if you're reading this article we're all nerds here.

Pos Player # Ht/Wt Number history/commentary
QB Jack Tuttle 13 6'4"/212 Larry Cipa is our most famous #13 QB. Since Jason Kapsner it's been mostly walk-ons willing to risk it.
RB Cole Cabana 24 6'0"/180 Pretty bland "He's an RB" number. Gil Chapman, Jerome Jackson, Zach Charbonnet, late-career Kevin Grady.
RB Benjamin Hall 28 5'11"/235 Even blander RB number that Fitz Toussaint made his own here.
WR Fredrick Moore 82 6'1"/176 Mostly a TE number at Michigan; Amara Darboh defines its receiver legacy.
WR Semaj Morgan 12 5'10"/180 Okay here we go, Semaj. Roy Roundtree wore this until he switched to #21. See the end of this piece for the #12 story.
TE AJ Barner 89 6'6"/251 Derrick Walker more recently but comedian/Mad Magician Dick Rifenburg is a guy M fans should know. Chip Pederson, Tyler Ecker (pitch it to Breaston!), "Old Skillet Hands" Ian Bunting, and most recently Carter Selzer.
TE Zack Marshall 83 6'4"/220 Seeyuh Erick All. Zentry, Joppru, Diebolt, Seven Oaks Post Rudy Smeja, and mid-60s TE Rocky Rosema
OL Drake Nugent 60 6'2"/306 It's a good C number but its history at M is Jack Miller and the year Moosman filled in for Molk.
OL Amir Herring 56 6'3"/305 This is the C numer. Guards include Harold Goodwin, Ricky Barnum, and Dick Caldarazo.
OL Myles Hinton 78 6'6"/320 Mike Kenn was the orginal TE->HoF tackle. But for him and Erik Magnuson #78's been more of a G's number.
EDGE Josaiah Stewart 5 6'1"/237 Peppers was technically an OLB but the only DE/OLB type was Stewart's position coach, Mike Elston.
LB Ernest Hausmann 15 6'2"/228 James Ross made this an LB number all by himself.
DB Jyaire Hill 20 6'2"/171 Marlin Jackson was a #20 as a freshman. I'll leave it at that.
DB Cameron Calhoun 22 6'0"/171 Strong CB history here between Ty Law and David Long. Also late bloomers Lance Dottin and Gemon Green.

No I'm not such a nerd that I remembered all of these players on my own. There's a Bentley Database (that I've memorized).

NEW GUY SIZES

Most of the time Michigan will just use the 247Sports numbers rather than report their own for the spring enrollees. However the transfers all got re-measured, and some of the recruits came in different as well. In order of interestingness:

EDGE transfer Josiah Stewart is coming in at 6'1"/237, which is seven pounds heavier and once inch shorter than his last listing for Coastal Carolina. I hadn't heard his name yet, which is why I forgot he's already on campus, so apologies Podcast listeners. It's LaDarius Henderson who's enrolling later this year, not Stewart. Really sorry I got that wrong.

RB Benjamin Hall is listed at 5'11"/235, which is an inch taller and ten pounds heavier than his 247 listing. That's a big back.

LB transfer Ernest Hausmann is listed at 6'2"/228, eight pounds over his freshman playing weight at Nebraska.

CBs Jyaire Hill (6'2"/171) and Cameron Calhoun (6'0"/171) are both up a pound from their recruiting weights, and Hill is up an inch.

Center transfer Drake Nugent's 6'2"/306 is six pounds heavier and one inch taller than on last year's Stanford roster. Myles Hinton lost an inch; he was 6'7" on that Stanford roster and down to 6'6" on ours.

WR Semaj Morgan is at 5'10"/180 versus the 175 on his 247 listing. His teammate OL Amir Herring is at 6'3"/305. These are the same sizes listed in last year's West Bloomfield programs. WR freshman Fredrick Moore is also up a pound, from 175 to 176.

QB Jack Tuttle is 6'4"/212, a couple pounds more than he was at IU.

NUMBER CHANGES

This photo is now 67% out of date. [David Wilcomes]

A lot of these are just walk-ons getting out of the way of scholarship guys' choices. Some of them are also old. I'll put them in order of how interesting I found them.

Amorion Walker #1 (was #4): They've been talking him up so much at cornerback that giving him the #1 jersey with Andrel Anthony gone means less to me than giving fellow cornerback Ja'Den McBurrows's number to him. McBurrows is still listed as #1, which means first guy on the field gets it under Harbaugh's rules, but you'd think if these were the two guys competing for the #2 and #3 cornerback positions they wouldn't be wearing the same digit at this point. This is some extreme tea leaving but it's a sign the program doesn't have McBurrows as close to the field as my imagination does. Micah Pollard wears #4 on defense.

Max Bredeson #44 (was #82): Brian and Alex and Dave want to ruin my dream of a fullback, but the program keeps reigniting it.

Tyler Morris #8 (was #13): Just in case playing like Ronnie Bell wasn't enough, Morris is taking over his number too. In case throwing at him on a crucial 3rd down vs Rutgers didn't clue you in, I'm once again asking you to believe me that this guy's going to be dynamite.

Connor Jones #76 (was #60): Connor had to move aside for Nugent, so he took, oh, you know, the number that Steve Hutchinson wore, as well as Jim Brandstatter, and yeah Ryan Hayes.

Peyton O'Leary #81 (was #38): Craig Ross keeps hearing them talking up O'Leary like he was an extra recruit. He got a scholarship this spring, but lots of guys get half-year scholarships when they become available after December departures. Giving him a non-walk-on WR number is another indicator they really like O'Leary, but with Darrius Clemons and Tyler Morris coming up I don't think O'Leary is going to factor much.

LAST YEAR'S HAPPENINGS, REPORTED

These number changes happened during the course of 2022 but the program didn't update the roster until now:

Jayden Denegal #14 (was #16): This happened last year since Davis Warren took #16, but it's usually not a good sign for a young QB to switch numbers before he's seen the field. Plus you're taking away our John Navarre comp for what, a Brian Griese one?

Quinten Johnson #28 (was #14). This also happened last year and finally got reported on the rosters. Jimmy Rolder got pushed to #30 at the time.

WALK-ON CHANGES

Noah Stewart (was #61) took #33 after moving to TE. The other position change is Peter Simmons, who went from #75 on the OL to #70 on the DL. RB Danny Hughes switched from #24 (which Cabana took) to #37. LB Joel Metzger went from #39 to #54. CB Joshua Nichols went from #28 to #29. Safety Jesse Madden went from #18 to #42. And finally, CB Shomari Stone Jr. went from #30 to #37 because of Rolder. Shomari is the son of reporter Shomari Stone, who used to have a bitchin' student TV show in college where he once interviewed Charles Woodson on his couch.

HERE WE GO, NUMBER 12 AGAIN

In 1999 my friend Brandon Williams put on #12 as a true freshman at Michigan, and wore it until his eligibility expired in 2002. The dodecadozen since:

  • QB Matt Gutierrez (2003-'05) transferred to Idaho State for his last two years.
  • QB David Cone (2006-'08) switched to #17 in 2009.
  • CB JT Floyd (2008-'10) switched to #8 in 2011.
  • WR Roy Roundtree (2009-'11) took #21 as a Legends number in 2012.
  • LB Allen Gant (2012-'14) switched to his uncle's #14 in 2015.
  • QB Devin Gardner (2012) was already disqualified for starting his career as a #7. He wore #12 for a year and a game before taking #98 as a Legends jersey the night after the photo of B-Will above was taken.
  • QB Alex Malzone (2015-'16) switched to #15 in 2017.
  • P Blake O'Neill (2015) was only here for one season, so he doesn't count.
  • RB Chris Evans (2016-'18) was so close! He sat out a year then came back as a #9 though.
  • LB Josh Ross (2017-'21) also got close. He wore #12 for five years, but left for the NFL with a year of COVID eligibility remaining. Bzzzzt!
  • QB Cade McNamara (2019-'22) was off to a good start but transferred to Iowa this offseason with a couple of years left rather than be JJ's backup again.
  • CB Kody Jones started his counter in 2022. He redshirted, so he's got to make it through 2026.

If Jones doesn't do it, it's up to Semaj in 2026 or 2027. For what it's worth, B-Will's son is a D-I freshman this year, and Semaj played for B-Will's good buddy Ronald Bellamy at West Bloomfield, which makes Morgan the first candidate who probably chose the number 12 with the knowledge there's a subsection of Michigan guys in their 40s who care about this a lot.

Blue Vet

February 27th, 2023 at 12:36 PM ^

Lotsa fun. Thanks, Seth.

98xj

February 27th, 2023 at 12:42 PM ^

other great 12s: George Hoey, Ricky Powers

blueheron

February 27th, 2023 at 12:43 PM ^

Regarding Lorenzetti, I'm choosing to believe that he has D-line athleticism and a high ceiling there.

In reply to Regarding Lorenzetti, I'm… by blueheron

M Ascending

February 27th, 2023 at 8:11 PM ^

Both of my nephews graduated from Loomis- Chaffee prep in CT, so Lorenzetti has to be good.  Makes sense,  right?

MightyMatt13

February 27th, 2023 at 12:52 PM ^

Kalel Mullings is an LB/RB. Order of the positions seems significant?

The big one everyone's talking about is Amorion Walker to cornerback. He's listed as a WR/DB on the roster.

Perhaps not all that significant

TXWolverine44

February 27th, 2023 at 1:10 PM ^

  • LB Josh Ross (2017-'21) also got close. He wore #12 for five years, but left for the NFL with a year of COVID eligibility remaining. Bzzzzt!

Josh Ross totally counts or at least deserves an asterisk due to COVID since without COVID he'd have exhausted his eligibility

In reply to LB Josh Ross (2017-'21) also… by TXWolverine44

Seth

February 27th, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^

This ruling was made in 2020 when they announced the covid eligibility. Either you play out everything you can or BZZZZZT

MJG

February 27th, 2023 at 1:12 PM ^

I would think Stokes is ahead of Mullings, and next in line to start. 

In reply to I would think Stokes is… by MJG

kehnonymous

February 27th, 2023 at 3:08 PM ^

I will be happy to eat crow, as the team has made me do often since this decade, but right now if Mullings is in the conversation for the starting RB next-next year, that's awfully concerning for me as I havent seen much from him thus far that screams feature back.

In reply to I will be happy to eat crow,… by kehnonymous

CFraser

February 27th, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^

I don’t think the plan is to have Mullings become a feature back. He’s situational for anything 2 yards and under on 3rd/4th down or goal line; we don’t have a 230lb+ bruiser, sometimes you need that. 

In reply to I don’t think the plan is to… by CFraser

Golden section

February 27th, 2023 at 10:32 PM ^

Benjamin Hall is listed at 235 so could be an option.  

In reply to I will be happy to eat crow,… by kehnonymous

MJ14

February 27th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^

As it is now, it could be Cabana starting next year with Mullings/Stokes splitting carries behind him. There’s also a chance it’s Marshall then Cabana then Mullings next year and Stokes is gone. Lots to happen between now and next year. We’ll see how everyone develops. But currently Cabana looks primed to get some good run. Marshall would immediately come in and get good time if he were to commit. I’m 50-50 on that happening. I have a strong feeling OSU is going to be hard to beat. 

In reply to I would think Stokes is… by MJG

steviebrownfor…

February 27th, 2023 at 4:58 PM ^

Based on what, exactly? 

When corum wasn't available they didn't really even give Stokes a shot, they went straight to putting an LB at RB rather than use Stokes.

In reply to Based on what, exactly?  … by steviebrownfor…

MJG

February 27th, 2023 at 6:07 PM ^

They were using Stokes quite a bit until he got banged up, and then they went to Mullings. Stokes had 55 carries for 273 at 5.0 yards per pop - 3rd amongst RBs. 

The Oracle 2

February 27th, 2023 at 1:17 PM ^

I’m surprised we haven’t seen any OL transfers yet.

In reply to I’m surprised we haven’t… by The Oracle 2



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