WTKA Roundtable 2/23/2023: You Control YouSethFebruary 23rd, 2023 at 10:28 AM
Things discussed:
Michigan vs MSU: The real feelings came out. Ignore the fans who make it about hate: the kid who had the "Love You, Brother" sign got it right.
Michigan vs MSU: Oh right, the basketball game! Tarris Reed game. Fear of playing him is he'll foul out and you don't have another center, but worth the risk to have him on the floor. Solves athleticism issues because he can play the 4 on defense and Hunter can shoot well enough to stretch on offense. Fixed the rebounding issues.
Jett: First time all year he was doing other stuff when his shots weren't going. Need to see more of that.
T-Will back minutes? Take them all from Tschetter. Don't worry about Reed because he should see the court 55% of the time between PF and C, and TW only plays 65% when he's healthy.
Spring Practice: Amorion Walker to cornerback is the talk. Ceiling: INCREDIBLE. Present: Says they're short on cornerbacks. Jyaire Hill shouldn't be expected to pick up the defense. Really want to see a big spring from Ja'den McBurrows.
OL shakeout? Craig likes Persi at LT, but there are lots of guys to consider. Zinter says Nugent is a 1-for-1 replacement for Olu.
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Let me translate that from Spring Practice-ese: They need a guy.
My "hot take" guess.. we see lots of McBurrows and Myles Pollard at CB this year.
OL: Persi-Keegan-Nugent-Zinter-Henderson
ShadowStorm33
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:06 AM
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Definitely hurts losing out on that Ole Miss transfer CB (to OSU no less), especially after we ended up hiring Partridge anyway. I wonder if having Partridge would have made a difference, or if it was always going to be an NIL battle that we were destined to lose? Would seriously suck if we could have had him had we just hired Partridge earlier...
Blue Texan
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:42 PM
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Or a blessing in disguise! I am really looking forward to see Walker at CB. Blazing speed (6.1s cone is otherworldly) and 6’ 3” size, are both superior to Igbigosun. He just needs the experience.
When is the last time we had 2 6’ 3” CBs with elite athleticism? Never IMO.
Champeen
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:15 AM
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I don't care if Zinter kicks my ass or not, no way Nugent = Olu. Olu was the best here at his Position since Everitt IMO.
Hotel Putingrad
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:34 AM
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Yeah, that's just being a good teammate, not a truth teller.
King Tot
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:43 AM
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Keegan said mostly the same thing. I still don't believe it but their could be some truth to it.
AWAS
February 23rd, 2023 at 2:18 PM
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I tend to agree with you that the bar is REALLY high. I mean, anything less than another Rimington finalist just won't be "equal". Then I hope we are both wrong and Nugent is who Zinter says he is.
OldSchoolWolverine
February 23rd, 2023 at 4:36 PM
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*maybe until the TCU game.
matty blue
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:44 AM
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seth - re: worst officiating in 15 years? watch a women's game, any women's game. it's like watching the JV squad for a really lousy varsity team.
Seth
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:57 PM
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Oh I know. Believe me, I know.
kyle.aaronson
February 23rd, 2023 at 12:33 PM
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I think Seth made a really good point about the real feelings coming out for this game.
It's so easy to focus on the extreme members of each fan base gnashing their teeth because those extreme members will gnash their teeth at anything the other side does. Meanwhile, the average fans (who make up a much larger percentage of the fan base) don't make as much noise, and so are not spotlighted. It's unfortunate that an event as tragic as this was what brought out the "brotherly love" between these two institutions, and, while it seems foolish to hope that it's a launching pad for better interactions between the most heated fans, here's to hoping there's more.
Blue Vet
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:01 PM
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I've mentioned a few times that in game action, T-Will looks unconfident. The idea of fewer minutes and lower expectations might help.
MGoOhNo
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:21 PM
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Exactly, he’s thinking too much, and looks like he’s making decisions in slow motion except when he goes too fast and looks like a new puppy learning how to use his feet.
Shop Smart Sho…
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:37 PM
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Which is basically what he's looked like his entire time here, right?
Blue Vet
February 23rd, 2023 at 2:46 PM
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Maybe but I don't recall a fretful look on his face last year.
Blue Vet
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:31 PM
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Craig, thanks for pointing out the Izzhit spewed after losses:
• "Give credit to their team but they got really lucky."
• "Give them credit but we played terrible."
• Also, his standard "I'm not throwing anyone under the bus but wish [a player] had done what I told him."
Goblueman
February 23rd, 2023 at 3:25 PM
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You forgot: 1.We have injuries.2.Our schedule is brutal ( ignores fact other Big 10 teams have same schedule).
3.Refs.Ignores fact he has longest ref leash in Big 10 by a wide margin
MSU slappy media ignores this and are essentially Izzo PR staff.
Michigan4Life
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:43 PM
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Reed's high foul rate is what makes it hard for Juwan to run out a 2 big man lineup. Juwan also need Reed to backup Hunter. If Reed is in foul trouble and Hunter is hurt or needs to rest, they don't have anyone who can play the 5. That's part of the reason why you don't see 2 big lineup all that often.
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MGoRhinoAZ
February 23rd, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^
Very much liking what I'm hearing about Nugent!
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SlickNick
February 23rd, 2023 at 10:53 AM ^
My "hot take" guess.. we see lots of McBurrows and Myles Pollard at CB this year.
OL: Persi-Keegan-Nugent-Zinter-Henderson
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ShadowStorm33
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:06 AM ^
Definitely hurts losing out on that Ole Miss transfer CB (to OSU no less), especially after we ended up hiring Partridge anyway. I wonder if having Partridge would have made a difference, or if it was always going to be an NIL battle that we were destined to lose? Would seriously suck if we could have had him had we just hired Partridge earlier...
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Blue Texan
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:42 PM ^
Or a blessing in disguise! I am really looking forward to see Walker at CB. Blazing speed (6.1s cone is otherworldly) and 6’ 3” size, are both superior to Igbigosun. He just needs the experience.
When is the last time we had 2 6’ 3” CBs with elite athleticism? Never IMO.
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Champeen
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:15 AM ^
I don't care if Zinter kicks my ass or not, no way Nugent = Olu. Olu was the best here at his Position since Everitt IMO.
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Hotel Putingrad
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:34 AM ^
Yeah, that's just being a good teammate, not a truth teller.
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King Tot
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:43 AM ^
Keegan said mostly the same thing. I still don't believe it but their could be some truth to it.
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AWAS
February 23rd, 2023 at 2:18 PM ^
I tend to agree with you that the bar is REALLY high. I mean, anything less than another Rimington finalist just won't be "equal". Then I hope we are both wrong and Nugent is who Zinter says he is.
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OldSchoolWolverine
February 23rd, 2023 at 4:36 PM ^
*maybe until the TCU game.
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matty blue
February 23rd, 2023 at 11:44 AM ^
seth - re: worst officiating in 15 years? watch a women's game, any women's game. it's like watching the JV squad for a really lousy varsity team.
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Seth
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
Oh I know. Believe me, I know.
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kyle.aaronson
February 23rd, 2023 at 12:33 PM ^
I think Seth made a really good point about the real feelings coming out for this game.
It's so easy to focus on the extreme members of each fan base gnashing their teeth because those extreme members will gnash their teeth at anything the other side does. Meanwhile, the average fans (who make up a much larger percentage of the fan base) don't make as much noise, and so are not spotlighted. It's unfortunate that an event as tragic as this was what brought out the "brotherly love" between these two institutions, and, while it seems foolish to hope that it's a launching pad for better interactions between the most heated fans, here's to hoping there's more.
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Blue Vet
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:01 PM ^
I've mentioned a few times that in game action, T-Will looks unconfident. The idea of fewer minutes and lower expectations might help.
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MGoOhNo
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:21 PM ^
Exactly, he’s thinking too much, and looks like he’s making decisions in slow motion except when he goes too fast and looks like a new puppy learning how to use his feet.
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Shop Smart Sho…
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:37 PM ^
Which is basically what he's looked like his entire time here, right?
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Blue Vet
February 23rd, 2023 at 2:46 PM ^
Maybe but I don't recall a fretful look on his face last year.
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Blue Vet
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:31 PM ^
Craig, thanks for pointing out the Izzhit spewed after losses:
• "Give credit to their team but they got really lucky."
• "Give them credit but we played terrible."
• Also, his standard "I'm not throwing anyone under the bus but wish [a player] had done what I told him."
Joined: 05/08/2012
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Goblueman
February 23rd, 2023 at 3:25 PM ^
You forgot: 1.We have injuries.2.Our schedule is brutal ( ignores fact other Big 10 teams have same schedule).
3.Refs.Ignores fact he has longest ref leash in Big 10 by a wide margin
MSU slappy media ignores this and are essentially Izzo PR staff.
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MGoPoints: 3512
Michigan4Life
February 23rd, 2023 at 1:43 PM ^
Reed's high foul rate is what makes it hard for Juwan to run out a 2 big man lineup. Juwan also need Reed to backup Hunter. If Reed is in foul trouble and Hunter is hurt or needs to rest, they don't have anyone who can play the 5. That's part of the reason why you don't see 2 big lineup all that often.
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