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Upon Further Review 2022: Defense vs MSU

Upon Further Review 2022: Defense vs MSU
Seth November 2nd, 2022 at 10:42 AM
Shine on you crazy diamond. [Bryan Fuller]

The UFR Glossary.

Substitution Notes: Smith most of the way, Jenkins was in for about half, Graham got his usual quarter-ish, and Rayshaun Benny got more play than usual, with Grant and Goode getting some run late. End was a rotation led by Morris. Harrell got in first and as much as Okie but the balance shifted towards Upshaw later, with 2 drives for D.Moore and McGregor. Linebacker was Colson and Barrett until garbage time. At CB, Turner went the whole way, and Sainristil most of it moving outside for a few snaps as Gemon Green gave more time to him and Johnson after the TD drive. Moore and Paige held down safety, spelled for a drive each by Moten, who adding another third of his ~20 snaps at nickel when Sainristil moved out.

Formation Notes: ESPN/ABC missed the start of a lot of plays while doing replays or following players/coaches around, which is a common old issue that I had forgotten about so remind me to write a kind letter to Fox thanking them for not missing plays. MSU had a bunch of funky alignments that I mostly shoehorned into old boxes. This half-bone/half-Fritz got called "Pistol WF" since the TEs are linked up like a wing and a fullback, though both at fullback depth.

Often a TE would then motion across the formation to an offset fullback position (Pistol WF-Cross) like so:

...which usually indicated a lead zone to that side. The other fullback weirdness was a thing in my NCAA playbook as "F stack" so that's what I called it:

They also sometimes lined up the RB in front of the QB, which is a thing that "Yes we are passing but we can't Pass protect either" teams do. I called it Empty RB since it's not really shotgun once the back is no longer in a spot to get a handoff.

[After THE JUMP: Another short show]

Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Gun Wk 4-2-5 5-1 Under 2-off Run   Split Zone Duo Colson 7 0.60
Backside is stunting here and Harrell(-1) gets cut off by the LT on his way to replace Jenkins. Smith(-0.5) gets washed by a double. Morris(+1) crushed the kickout and Colson used Smith's double to shoot into the backfield so they had a TFL if Harrell got to his gap. RPS wash: stunt contributed to Harrell's problem and wasted Barrett but stacking the box with Paige should have made up for that.
O32 2nd 3 Pistol Wk 4-2-5 4-3 Even 1 fld Run   Reverse Barrett 17 1.93
RT isn't set but refs-1 miss it. July play that M ran against MSU in Gardner's day that gets Harrell(-1) and Barrett(-1) to bite inside. Harrell can't get outside a block from the QB and Barrett gets edged so this gets a chunk until Turner(+0.5) arrives to hold it down. RPS-2.
M46 1st 10 Gun 2RB Flex H-Flare 4-2-5 5-2 Odd 2 off PRO n/a Bubble/OZ Colson -10 -3.24
The 2nd RB is Reed and the read is Colson. Flexed TE catches Sainristil lined up like a 4-3 SAM and he's blocked (RPS-1). I'd show a clip if ABC wasn't in pore-o-vision, but this was saved by Moore(+1) jetting down super fast and getting Reed out after a short gain. Comes back for the LT slamming Harrell down after the whistle--would show you that too but ABC was showing Mel Tucker being screaming mad.
O39 2nd 20 Gun Str Y-Cross 4-2-5 Nk Splits 2 fld Penalty   False Start n/a -5 -0.35
Oops.
O34 2nd 25 Pistol Twins 4-2-5 Nk Over 2 off Run   ZR Counter GT Morris -4 -0.22
As dominated as a play can be. M is blitzing Sainristil, slanting to the playside, and scrape exchanging (RPS+3) so Morris(+1) can take out the RB then come off to help Colson(+1, tackling+1) and Sainristil(+1) wrangle Thorne down in the backfield. Even if they ran this without the reversed read Jenkins(+2) hopped past the TE's downblock to interfere with the first puller and take out the second. Gets full credit even if it didn't affect the play because that's badass.
O30 3rd 29 Gun Str Stack Y-Cross 4-2-5 Nk Over 2 off Pass 4 Bubble Screen Sainristil 10 0.09
Give up and punt, Sainristil(-1, tackling-1) overran a bit but Colson(+1) cleaned up. Penalty for illegal shift (TE started higher in the backfield) is declined.
Drive Notes: Punt. 0-0. 12 min 1st Q. Would have liked to see the penalty that killed the drive, ABC.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O37 1st 10 Pistol Str 4-2-5 Nk Over 2 press Run   Inside Zone Smith 1 -0.87
Double Jenkins(+1) ends with the 2nd guy jumping on his back and taking him down but this still causes a good mess and Barrett(+0.5) is able to thunk the C in a good spot. Okie(+0.5) rocked back his RT so now he's standing on Jenkins too and there's not much room. Smith(+2) blows through the LG who had ideas of scooping, drives him into the backfield, and stuffs at the LOS.
O38 2nd 9 Pistol Twins 4-2-5 Nk Over 2 press Pass 4 RB Flat Green 6 0.30
Moten in for Sainristil. Jenkins(+1, PR+1) puts the RG deep in the pocket and a bunch of quick sticks are covered (cov+1) so Thorne dumps to his RB in the flat. That's on Green(-1) who was coming off a TE hitch but fell down so this can get a few yards first.
O44 3rd 3 Pistol Wk 4-2-5 Nk Split 1 press Run   ZR IZ Colson 2 -0.55
M slants at this so RB cuts backside behind Benny(-0.5), who wants to get what Mazi did earlier but gets too far upfield. M has two guys outside which I think is on Okie(-1) since Paige formed up. So of course the LBs fix it! Barrett(+1) rocks back the guy Benny let through and Colson(+1) shoots past his blocker to stuff this. Or not? I've watched it lots and either the refs+1 marked him a yard short or they saw his knee touch down--our angle is just a wad of bodies.
O46 4th 1 Pistol Twins 5-2-4 Goal 0 press Run   Split Zone Smith 0 -4.28
Smith(+2) rocks through the C and gets on the RB's back. Jenkins(+1) rips through and takes out the back's knees. Paige(+2) gets his head on the ball to prevent any last push. Linesman tries to give MSU a very favorable spot but it's so bad a review overturns it.
Drive Notes: Turnover on Downs. 0-0. 7 min 1st Q. Tucker again very very mad at a correct call.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Pistol WF 5-2-4 5-2 Odd 2 press Play-Action 5 Scramble Smith 12 1.03
Thorne wants a TE wheel that Barrett(+2, cov+2) got on top of. Graham(-1) converts to a pass rush that pressures(PR+1) but it's a gamble to go outside his G, leaving a huge lane in the process that Thorne can escape from. Smith(-1) can't disengage from the C in time and goes down. Colson(-1) got too far upfield so this is run out after a 1st down despite having a spy.
O37 1st 10 Gun Str Stack Y-In 4-2-5 Nk Split 2 fld Run   Counter GCT Pitch Moore 2 -0.51
This is supposed to be clever, but Michigan is more so (RPS+2) as MSU has the TE motioning in throw a downblock on the edge and pulls the frontside G, the C, and the backside T with a look-pitch QB read. Morris(+2) sees the extra pullers and takes out the 2nd one, which stacks up the third and brings the TE way upfield. Colson(+1) was blitzing inside so this looks scary for a moment but he's able to spin back outside and get to the RB at the same time as Moore(+1) who was rotating down to replace the LB. RPS+1. This week's Neck Sharpies.
O39 2nd 8 Offset 2RB 4-2-5 5-2 Odd 2 fld Pass 4 Double Screen Barrett Inc -0.98
Sainristil deters the bubble side. Barrett(+2, cov+2) is in man (RPS+1) on the RB and about to blow up the slip screen but Thorne airmails it right to the LB. Barrett's in tackle mode though and can't bring in in the INT. Hat-2.
O39 3rd 8 Gun Str Stack Y-In 4-2-5 Nk Wide 2 press Pass 4 Fade Green 29 3.67
That is why you intercept when you have a chance says the one-armed man. Max pro vs a stunt has a clean pocket (PR-1) for Thorne to throw a jump ball to his 6-4 basketball player. Green(+1, cov+1) has an arm inside Coleman's arms and his hand is the first to touch the ball, but Coleman makes an unbelievable catch, mostly one-handed. Hat+3.
M32 1st 10 ??? 4-2-5 Nk ??? 1 press Play-Action n/a PA RB Flat Moten 6 0.22
Tempo. We miss the start of this with the replay so I'm going on memory a bit here but fortunately I remember this one well. Moten(-2, cov-2) is down next to Colson because he bit hard on PA. Moore(+2, tackling) arrives from way high and the other hash to hold this down, with help (Hat-1) from a pass that was a little upfield.
M26 2nd 4 Gun Trips Bunch 4-2-5 Nk Over 2 off Pass 4 Fade Green 26 2.60
Tempo (32). MSU has all but the RB way to the boundary to let Coleman (Hat+2) try another jump ball. This time Coleman gets away with very clear OPI (Refs-1) but also Green(-1) isn't looking back or trying to make a play on the ball so he earns a minus. Paige(-2, cov-3) was slow to get depth and help out despite starting nearer to that hash so he's not there to help or even tackle after.
Drive Notes: Touchdown. 3-7.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Gun Wk F 4-2-5 Nk Under 2 fld Run   Dart Insert Barrett 8 0.91
Barrett(-1) is late to find the Iso gap because he's watching Thorne read a fake RPO slant (RPS-1), which is good 2022 football. He runs into the FB softly then Collins plows into his FB's back to fall forward for a good gain.
O33 2nd 2 Pistol WF-Cross 5-2-4 5-2 Under 2 press Run   Stretch Jenkins 3 0.02
Jenkins(+1) has his guy in the backfield so RB bounces into him. Paige(-1, tackling-1) rolls down but gets passed up by the TE who walls off Colson instead. Want Paige to go low for the stick instead he's surprised he's not blocked and just hugs the RB who can fall forward for the 1st down.
O36 1st 10 Pistol Twins 5-2-4 4-3 Split 2 off Pass 4 TE Out Turner Inc -1.04
Quick out before pass rush matters, Turner(+2, cov+2) is out there quickly and breaks it up.
O36 2nd 10 Gun Str Stack Y-Cross 4-2-5 Nk Split 2 fld Run   ZR Buck GCT Jenkins 1 -0.53
First time they ran this I Neck Sharpied. This time M slants the line with it (RPS+1) and it's blown up by Jenkins(+2) who gets across the guy who's supposed to block down on him, soaks up the center, and makes the tackle himself. Harrell(+1) plunked the TE and took on a play-long double from the kickout blocker so the LBs were free to track all the way.
O37 3rd 9 Gun Wk 4-2-5 Nk over 1 press Pass 4 Hitch Turner 27 3.71
Tempo(25). They didn't call the last one so Coleman goes full OPI, chucking Turner(-2, tackling-2, Refs-1) at the sticks. Turner then weirdly starts guarding like a basketball player instead of tackling. Paige(-1) was playing behind him and actually crosses Turner to try to tackle. Sainristil arrives to get him down.
M36 1st 10 ??? 4-2-5 Nk ??? 2 off Pass 4 Comeback Paige 22 0.46
Tempo. Come back to this one late too. McGregor(+1, PR+1) has beat a TE who shoves him down then gives a hands-up "not me"--Question for the crowd: Is that an illegal block because a TE is by definition outside the tackles or is "tackle box" just a loose description? Harrell(-1) got lost on an aborted stunt and falls down so Thorne can roll out to the side and heave it at Coleman underneath Paige(-2) who's not close enough to affect an accurate throw. Not issuing a coverage grade because guys were covered until scramble time.
M14 1st 10 ??? 4-2-5 Nk ??? ??? Run   ??? Colson 3 -0.10
Tempo. ESPN misses this one too, and I'm starting to miss Fox. We come back to find Colson(+0.5) wrapping up with an OL unable to get downfield because Paige(+1) is under the TE.
M11 2nd 7 Gun Twins 5-2-4 5-2 Odd 2 press Run   Split Zone Smith 4 -0.02
M is blitzing the edge which should deliver a DE into this (RPS+1) but Jenkins(-1) is blown out by a double and Harrell(-1) is cut by the crosser so there's a big wedge forming. Smith(+2) swims through a double, grabs the RB's foot, and won't let go.
M7 3rd 3 Pistol WF-Cross 5-2-4 5-2 Odd 1 press Run   Lead Stretch Jenkins 2 -0.18
Jenkins(+2) rocks his OL back and gets across him to initiate the stuff. Smith(+1) fought across the center to keep Colson(+1) clean enough to fly into the backfield and be relevant. Graham(+0.5) had his guy beat. (MSU Timeout)
M5 4th 1 Ace Heavy Z-Fly 6-2-3 Goal n/a Run   IZ Counter Moore -2 -4.27
Crowd is amped because they just brought out Carol Hutchins and Jennie Ritter during the timeout (Softball+4). Tucker tries to earn his contract with a clever counter action by the RB, who steps the direction they motioned Reed then goes the other way. Line is blocking down, doubling Smith and Morris, except one backside kickout. M has 4 guys out there (RPS+2). They also get Jenkins(+1) blasting off at Hurst speed through the backfield, taking a TE with him. Graham(+0.5) dominated the C and is coming through a hold. Barrett(+2, tackling+2) shot inside an off-TE on the motion side and went right for the RB's path. An unblocked Moore(+1) who picked his way through the blocking quickly joins him, followed by Paige and Colson.
Drive Notes: Turnover on Downs. 10-7. 7 min 2nd Q. This play made the ref drive so much less annoying. Also less annoying: the rest of this game since SPOILER: there's only one more 1st down until the Defeat with Dignity time.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Gun 2RB 4-2-5 Nk Wide 1 fld Run   QB Draw Upshaw 4 -0.11
1:08, 0 TOs. MSU catches Smith stunting (RPS-1) and this looks dangerous until Upshaw(+2) spies what's going on. Looks like he's going to get Thorne down for no gain but Thorne is quick and Upshaw is not so he only gets a leg and it gains 4.
O29 2nd 6 Gun 4w 4-2-5 Nk Split 2 off Pass 4 H Out Johnson 3 -0.27
0:55. Morris seems to have the RT beat then doesn't--might have gotten facemasked?. Okie(+1, PR+1) is making things unpleasant vs the LT so Thorne gets this out to a quick out under Cover 3 that Johnson(-1, cov-1) isn't close to. WR steps out of bounds after catching it. (Hat-1)
O32 3rd 3 Gun 4w 4-2-5 Nk Over 1 fld Pass 4 Crossers Sainristil Inc -0.51
0:50. Morris goes on the clap but is doubled and nobody else is getting much (PR-1) so Thorne can wait for this to develop. He chooses a crossing route that Sainristil(+2, cov+2) PBUs like Nope!
Drive Notes: Punt.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O37 1st 10 Gun Str RB 4-2-5 Racecar Wide 2 press Penalty   Delay of Game n/a -5 -1.12
Oops.
O32 1st 15 Gun Str RB 4-2-5 Racecar Wide 2 press Pass 4 Dumpoff Sainristil 0 -0.63
0:42, 0 TOs. TE is supposed to chip Morris and rips him down (Refs-1). Smith(+1, PR+1) was trying to free Upshaw on a stunt and finds himself past the C with a clear path to the QB. That forces Thorne towards where Upshaw is going upfield so Thorne chucks it at his RB but it floats and Sainristil(+2, tackling+2) is like Nope, getting out there to bring the RB down inbounds for a TFL.
O32 2nd 15 Gun 4w 4-2-5 Racecar Wide 2 fld Pass 4 Sack Morris -5 -0.49
0:23. Morris(+3, PR+3) hops inside the LT who's still getting in his pass set when it's over. LG reaches back for a shoulderpad and gets brushed off as Morris gets right to Thorne for the takedown. It's begun with Smith(+1) comes around on a stunt to prevent Thorne from fighting to make it 3rd and 19. State lets the clock run out.
Drive Notes: EoH. 13-7. The sudden pressure made silly penalty on the punt less annoying.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Gun Wk F Stack 4-2-5 Nk Split 1 fld Play-Action 4 PA Fly Turner Inc -0.70
They try Reed deep. Smith(+1, PR+1) is ripping through a double which makes Thorne put this off his back foot. Turner(+2, cov+2) runs Reed's route for him, putting him in the sideline as the ball falls just inside the numbers.
O25 2nd 10 Gun Str 4-2-5 Nk Splits 1 press RPO   Stretch/Slant Smith 4 -0.06
Haha in Soviet Big House nose tackle reaches YOU. Smith(+2) flashes past the RG who lined up playside and had designs on a scoop so the C releases to Barrett. Colson(-1) has a free shot at a TFL but dances behind the guy Mazi beat. Jenkins(+1) also shucked the LG to fill in behind the C and combine for the tackle. They have him at 2 yards but Smith is pushed past and the two OL sorta carry him another 2 yards.
O29 3rd 6 Gun Wk 4-2-5 Nk ??/ 2 press Pass 6 Fly Turner Inc -0.31
Tempo(28). ESPN/ABC again misses the start of the play. M sends both LBs on delayed (dog?) blitzes but it's Morris(+1, PR+1) who gets through before Thorne can launch this. Turner(+1, cov+3) is in good position until a shove from Coleman creates some separation but Moore(+1, RPS+2) was hanging out at the hash ready to get over this and bat it down. Coleman laughably asks for a penalty. Sparty on, there Spart.
Drive Notes: Punt. 16-7. 8 min 3rd Q. Looks like Michigan adjusted to Coleman.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Pistol WF-Cross 4-2-5 5-2 odd 1 press Run   Lead Stretch Colson 5 0.09
M has all-rookie DL (Okie-Benny-Graham-DMo) in and nickel personnel with Sainristil effectively the DE. MSU runs at him and it's fine but D-Mo(-1) gets a double. He gives up a lot of ground but keeps Colson(+1) clean to hit the lead blocker, shed, and make the tackle. RPS-1.
O30 2nd 5 Gun Str Stack Y-Cross 4-2-5 5-2 Odd 2 fld Pass 6 Flash Screen Johnson -1 -0.86
Baylor quarterback Jeff Watson shows the ball to his fullback then forms up and passes out to Morris Anderson. Marcus Ray(-1) is in the slot and bites on the PA, so it's Anderson and Derrius Thompson all alone vs Woodson. He flies past the blocker and sticks as the ball arrives for a mean TFL. The next time this happens Sainristil recovers and gets out there to occupy the blocking WR, and Johnson(+3, cov+2, tackling+1) brings Reed down by the ankles.
O29 3rd 6 Gun 4w 4-2-5 Nk Under 1 bdy Pass 5 TE Slant Paige Inc -0.31
M shows blitz with Colson he drops and Barrett(+1, PR+1) joins and starts running through the RB with a hand in the QB's face. May cause this to be inaccurate. Paige(+1, cov+1) gets the TE's left arm pinned against his hip and the guy turns downfield trying to use that to draw a flag instead of trying to catch it as the ball whizzes over Tacopants.
Drive Notes: Punt. 19-7. 2 min 3rd Q. Michigan has run 20 plays this quarter; MSU: 6.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Pistol FW 4-2-5 4-3 Split 2 fld Pass 4 Dumpoff Turner 6 0.33
Morris(+1, PR+1) comes through the LT and an RB chip to get near Thorne but Upshaw(-1) is locked way outside by two TEs. One leaves and Upshaw doesn't get any closer so Thorne can roll away from Morris and dump it to the TE in the flat. Turner(+1, tackling+1) is playing off situationally but flies down to hold this to a medium gain.
O31 2nd 4 Pistol Str 4-2-5 404 Tite 2 press Run   Duo Jenkins -2 -1.10
Bust by MSU (Hat-2) as they triple Smith and there's nobody for Jenkins(+1, tackling+1). Also Colson(+1, RPS+1) was blitzing behind Smith and arrives with Jenkins for a free stuff.
O29 3rd 6 Empty RB 4w 4-2-5 Nk ??? 2 fld Pass 5 TE Stick Moore Inc -0.31
Game is broken. LG is standing up pointing and the C snaps it into Thorne's belly. Morris(+1, PR+1) is late to start because of this but quickly gets outside of the LT who gets a hand in his face, and Thorne chucks it at the feet of a TE who is just plowing into Moore(+1, cov+1 ...uh, do we + that?) and not really looking for it. Refs I don't know they could have called hands to the face or OPI or blown it dead for MSU not being set and saying nothing is fine too.
Drive Notes: Punt. 22-7. 13 min 4th Q. State has trouble with the snap, and we're back after 2 Corum runs and a TD.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O25 1st 10 Gun Str Stack Y-Cross 4-2-5 404 Tite 2 fld Pass 4 Dumpoff Barrett 8 0.91
Backup DL in, Goode(-0.5) and Harrell(-1) are stonewalled (PR-2) so Thorne has all day but nowhere to throw (Cov+2). He dumps it to his RB and this should be a 1-yarder but Barrett(-2, tackling-2) whiffs the tackle and Turner(-0.5) comes in gingerly to turn it into a good gain.
O33 2nd 2 Gun Double Stacks 4-2-5 Nk Split 1 press PRO n/a Flash Screen/IZ Turner 5 0.21
Tempo(29). Turner(-1, tackling-1, cov+1) is playing way off, actually gets there, but then forms up and gets run over for 5 yards, giving up the first.
O38 1st 10 Gun 2RB Flex RB-Flare 4-2-5 Nk Over 1 fld Pass 4 Throwaway Moore Inc -1.09
Finally an Amoeba even if it's just dropping McGregor and bringing Moten off the edge, which is enough to force Thorne to get rid of it (PR+2, RPS+2, cov+2) out of bounds. Rod Moore does not leap 10 feet in the air to one-handed stab it for an interception, but I've seen a man do that.
O38 2nd 10 Empty Quads 4-2-5 Nk Split 2 fld Pass 4 Sack McGregor -5 -1.07
Alignment suggests 500 to Coleman and MSU is probably expecting Turner(+1, cov+2) to bail as they run a slant under him. Instead M has Barrett(+1) dropped right into that (RPS+1). I think Sam is wrong--there's no missed hold on Horst--maybe one on the RT as Harrell(+0.5) twists out of a stunt, which doesn't threaten but does occupy Thorne as McGregor(+2, PR+2) gets a clean win on Horst outside and sacks. (MSU timeout)
O33 3rd 15 Gun Str RB 4-2-5 Nk Split 1 press Pass 4 Dumpoff Turner Inc -0.16
A long loop by Okie is picked up by the LG but Morris(+2, PR+2) creates some havoc by chucking a TE chip then coming inside Horst. Also MSU has two routes near the LOS on 3rd and 15. Thorne steps up and has to dump it to one before Morris sacks. TE drops it then gets lit up by Turner(+2, cov+2). Same winners who were crying for PI on the Moore PBU now want targeting. Way to Spart.
Drive Notes: Punt. 29-7. 11 min 4th Q. Next drive is mostly backups vs Dignity but the refs put a ball fair caught at the 19 at the 20 literally stealing money from kids with cancer.
Ln Dn Dst OForm DPack Front Hi Type Rush Play Player Yds EPA
O20 1st 10 Empty RB Wk 4-2-5 Nk Over 2 fld Pass 4 Snag Turner 3 -0.24
Okay the RT needs to get flagged now he's just facemasking Okie the whole play (Refs-2). This is a quick dump for nothing yards that Turner(+1, cov+1, tackling-1) is on immediately. Reed backs up to his LOS to try to stiffarm his way around this which gets back to where he caught it. Then he dives OOB and the Sparts cry for a late hit. Sparts.
O23 2nd 7 Gun Wk 4-2-5 Nk Over 1 press Pass 3 Post Sainristil 51 3.90
Benny(+1, PR+1) is coming through a G and has his hand up but it's a bust deep. ESPN's second-rate director never shows us the all-22 so it's hard to figure out whether Colson(-2) let the guy behind him by covering grass or Sainristil(-2, cov-3) peeled off to double Reed when he's supposed to stay high on this. I think it's Cover 2 which means Sainristil but Colson certainly looks guilty. Sharing blame.
M26 1st 10 Pistol F 4-2-5 Nk Split 2 off Run   Lead Stretch Graham 1 -0.36
Tempo(29). Come back to this a moment late but I can extrapolate the setup and there was probably TE motion since they're lead stretching again. Backside G tries to cut Graham(+1) who stays upright and inline like a pro. Benny(+2) shows why he's murder on zone by controlling the G and C trying to scoop him, putting the G in the backfield then chucking him to take out the lead blocker. Sainristil(+1) flies down and adds himself to the edge to stop the slide at the hash and Graham can jump on the RB's back to end it.
M25 2nd 9 Empty RB 4w 4-2-5 Nk Split 2 off Pass 7 TE Corner Paige Inc -0.59
House brought, which is one more than they have guys for (RPS+1, PR+1) and Paige(+2, cov+2) is on top of and dominating the only place Thorne can throw it before he's lit up by Sainristil(+1). Sparts want a late hit for a shot that began when the QB still had the ball. Sparts!
M25 3rd 9 Gun 2RB H-Flare 4-2-5 Racecar 2 off Pass 4 TE Tunnel Morris Inc -0.74
MSU trying to set up a tunnel screen to the TE and Morris(+2) bats it in the air. Okie is under it and Thorne has to PBU. M has three guys for 2 blockers so screen's probably not getting far.
M25 4th 9 Gun Trips 4-2-5 Nk Wide 2 off Pass 5 TE Flag Moore 9(-15) 1.57
M tips Double-A blitz and Thorne checks into a protection that picks it up, minus Upshaw(-1, PR-2)'s loop that is so slow Thorne has time to watch this develop. Moore(+1, cov+1) does everything he can but Baker (Hat+2) muscles it away from him. Moore has an arm around the ball and is still fighting for it on the ground, which induces Baker to thwack Moore away, which gets flagged. A bit ticky-tack but given this is garbage time and MSU it's 100% warranted.
M31 1st 10 Gun 4w 4-2-5 Nk Split 2 fld Pass 4 TE Out Johnson Inc -0.58
Refs(-1) miss the C with a snap infraction. Pressure comes from Smith(+1, PR+1) which creates a throw to Tacopants as Thorne's getting run into. Johnson might have a play if it's accurate but can't tell so push. Sparts trying to gin up a roughing the passer again.
M31 2nd 10 Gun Wk 4-2-5 Nk Even 2 off Pass 4 Dig Moore INT -5.92
I think one of the DTs (Smith-1, PR-2) screwed up a stunt since there's nobody with contain and nobody close as Thorne can step up when Morris is around at 9. They have an RB chip for Upshaw(-1) that's not needed since he's completely stonewalled by the LT. Thorne could scramble for the 1st and lots more but thinks he has a dig open downfield to Coleman. In truth Rod Moore(+3, cov+3) is baiting this, stepping in front of the pass and taking it back to midfield.
Drive Notes: Interception. 29-7. 4 min 4th Q. End of game for defense.

Screw those guys.

This isn't about the tunnel.

It's all the tunnel. Toxic fanbase. Toxic team. I take joy in watching them get their asses handed to them. And when everything they get is off of cheap bullshit they didn't do anything to deserve I only think that harder.

I happen to know some pretty nice Spartans.

Okay so what did they do this game that you were like "Okay, that's pretty good"?

They ran even fewer plays than Penn State, meaning I was able to go trick-or-treating with my kids and still get the charting wrapped up in a reasonable time.

Anything that cannot be accomplished through ineptitude?

They had ten drives, three of which gained more than 10 yards, and only one of those scored any points. The only drive to get to double digits in plays was mostly ref-assisted. There's a LOT of ineptitude here.

Okay so the one drive that got points.

They got two big plays by throwing it up to a well-covered Keon Coleman, a 6-4 basketball player with incredible strength, length, body control, and vertical. That dude was outta control. Mad respect.

And how many times did he commit an uncalled pass interference?

Two or three but that is fewer than the number of Hat Tip points I handed out to him. Like, I don't know what else you can do about a guy who does this:

I gave Green a +1 here and even that feels light because his hand is the first to touch the ball, and Coleman has basically catch this, while still airbound mind you, with his right hand because Green's arm is inside Coleman's left one. Dude.

The touchdown two plays later required a push-off but as Brian said it was one of those minor ones that rarely gets called.

It also required another acrobatic stab, and then Coleman also managed to stay on his feet to score when a 1st and Goal at the three was hardly a guarantee of points. The other OPI that led to a 1st down and extra on a 3rd and long was against Turner, and again when you have that kind of size/length/strength you can make pass interference look like mutual hand-fighting.

Would I like that to be called? Sure. Refs-1. But I don't really expect it to be, and would encourage Michigan's receivers to try this cheat as well, except none of them could probably pull it off like Coleman, hence Hat Tip!

So why didn't they just keep doing that?

For one because it's a gimmick. Big fade merchants have been a Michigan State staple for years--Cody White, Felton Davis, Donnie Corley, Aaron Burbridge, Tony Lippett, BJ Cunningham, Bennie Fowler, Mark Dell, Blair White, Charles Rogers...how far back do you wanna go? It makes sense for MSU because they probably can't come up with a run that's going to get more than 2 yards on 1st down, so why not burn that down on something with more upside?

But unless they have 4.5 speed as well these contested ball catchers are the Just-a-Shooters of their sport: you can't just leave them alone on a corner, but that's really the only threat they pose. You might get away with some Ahrens push-offs, but you can't build an offense out of that.

And you'll note that was the story in this game. State got a chunk play and then a touchdown on tempo, Michigan adjusted, and that was it. Late in the game MSU tried to attack Turner with a look that threatened Coleman over the top then came underneath and he wasn't buying.

#5 CB at the top

If MSU's thing was going to be max protection and lofting the ball up to their receiver who's never covered even if he's covered, Michigan was just going to have a safety get over him. Note where Paige was at the start of the first two throws, and then where they have Rod Moore set up on this one.

Coleman got some separation with a mid-route arm bar again but it doesn't matter because Moore is tracking it. This throw might even be shorted, because all of them have to slow up to get it. Coleman begging for a DPI call after this is rich though. Sparties gonna Spart.

Will you admit that Moore should have intercepted that?

The argument that it's 3rd and 6 has some merit but more than that I think it's about the angle that Moore goes up with. Coleman's a big boy, and Moore isn't, and the worst things he can do here would be to run over Turner, allow the ball to get plucked above his hands, or do something that could be called interference. Coming in sideways for an authoritive PBU is the safest choice.

He got a +1 for this. Asking more is asking for Woodson.

So Rod Moore is not going to win the Heisman over the Tennessee quarterback this year?

No, because Moore could not bring this in with a one-handed stab and then get a foot down inbounds. Woodsons are known to do that.

But I liked him all the same. After weeks of wheel spinning that I thought might be related to his lingering injury I'm even more inclined to go with that theory, because Moore was flat out fast again this week. I couldn't grab all of the clips but this game was a return to what I loved most about him as a true freshman--the zooming down from on high to matter in the run game--with a side of that pick-hunting dawg from his recruiting profile.

Perhaps you can represent that performance arithmetically.

I can give you a chart with Moore in it.

Moore Chart!

Defensive Line
Player Snaps + - T Notes
Mazi Smith 41 13 1.5 +11.5 Feasted.
Kris Jenkins 27 13 1 +12 Unstoppable.
Mason Graham 16 2 1 +1 Half-points vs backside single blocks + a Fr moment.
Rayshaun Benny 10 3 0.5 +2.5 You tried to stretch Benny how did that work out for you?
Kenneth Grant 2 0 0 - No rush.
Cam Goode 4 0 0.5 -0.5 Got in late.
Michael Morris 35 14 0 +14 Demolished then left alone.
Jaylen Harrell 23 1.5 4 -2.5 Not his kind of game.
Eyabi Okie 22 1.5 1 +0.5 Present but rarely used.
Derrick Moore 8 0 1 -1 Not a DT.
Taylor Upshaw 18 2 3 -1 This was the gameplan apparently.
Braiden McGregor 8 4 0 +4 Hello again.
TOTAL 214 54 13.5 +40.5 Smith+Morris+Jenkins=Hutchinson.
Linebacker
Player Snaps + - T Notes
Junior Colson 52 7.5 4 +3.5 Barely tested in coverage but I will take it!!!
Nikhai Hill-Green 0 0 0 - DNP
Michael Barrett 35 9.5 4 +5.5 Strong day in coverage vs TEs and TE-like RBs.
Kalel Mullings 6 0 0 - DNC.
Jimmy Rolder 0 0 0 - DNP
TOTAL 93 17 8 +9 Quietly good day might just mean MSU is lousy.
Secondary
Player Snaps + - T Notes
DJ Turner 52 10.5 3.5 +7 If that's the guy you wanna pick on.
Mike Sainristil 47 7 3 +4 Played outside some, blamed him for the one breakdown.
Gemon Green 30 1 2 -1 Mossed twice, which led to more time for WJ.
Will Johnson 19 3 1 +2 Didn't try him, slammed down a WR screen.
Rod Moore 49 11 0 +11 OH DERE YOU ARE PETER PAN
Makari Paige 48 6 6 - Not boring enough, also not appreciated enough.
RJ Moten 19 0 2 -2 Tried at nickel, only event was eating a PA.
Quinten Johnson 0 0 0 - DNP
TOTAL 264 38.5 17.5 +21 Moore and Turner took over the game in the 2nd half.
Metrics
Player + - T Notes
Pressure 23 8 47% Mendoza line is 67% so this isn't cutting it.
Coverage 33 9 +24 Sure, try those guys.
Tackling 8 8 - Only one really bad event. Lots of Elijah Collins falling.
RPS 18 6 +12 A lot less July than I was expecting.
Hat Tip 7 6 +1 Keon Coleman made up for his teammates.

Those five DBs that OSU took over Rod Moore must have been amazing.

I sure hope not.

Can I try to guess when's the last time we had a safety score like that?

Sure, the database goes back to 2008. Guess away.

Never.

Not quite never. Not counting linebacker hybrids (Peppers, Khaleke) there's Jordan Kovacs against Western Michigan in 2011 (+13), and Delano Hill vs Hawai'i (+11). Metellus was close a couple of times but never cracked double-digits. Also this list I just generated is littered with Peppers games, so that's the level of impact we're talking about here.

If you're going to make that list a game-ending (for the defense at least) interception is a good way to start. Not all interceptions are equal; often it's more on the quarterback for missing a read or getting thunked or batted. I believe this is the other kind: where the defender induces the throw he knows he can get to. Try looking downfield like you're Peyton Thorne.

Moore is #19 the deep safety on the right hash.

It's subtle but Moore is giving you signs like he's worried about getting over a corner route. After all, most of State's yards this game have come on fades. There's a hesitation move to sell it and then as soon as the QB is committed Moore is driving. He knows he's going to steal this from the moment it's thrown. I want to +4. I did +3.

That and ending the Keon Coleman fades weren't even half of his day. There were a lot of reasons for the second, comprehensive 4th and short stop, but one of them was the deft way Moore managed to weave his way into the backfield.

bottom of the formation behind the yellow line, just inside the CB

In a game where 3rd or 4th and short was far from a sure thing, Moore was responsible for several critical stops short of the sticks when a player had the momentum to get there or near enough. For example there was a ton of planning put into this play that ultimately got a big RB with a head of steam heading at a little safety. It got 2 yards.

Rod didn't even get a score for tracking down Coleman after the 51-yard pass earlier on the last drive, but he did that too. He also held the play when Moten bit on play-action to just 6 yards when the same play-action pass set up MSU's tying points against Wisconsin.

That was the only Moten event I charted despite #6 getting more playing time this game. Paige continued to hold down the other safety spot and was eventfully medium. To the bad: he got beat once by coming unattached to Coleman on a comeback and I wanted him to get over faster on the touchdown. To the good, he had a hand--actually a helm--in stuffing the first 4th and 1.

The (relatively) big scores from the safeties is noteworthy because usually they're not that involved.

I take it you have a theory why they were in this game?

Well now I have to come up with one. But I think I know where to look. Or at least I think I know what was missing, e.g. from the Moore pick.

Are we guessing?

We are guessing.

Pressure.

Good guess. Here's that play again without the coverage part:

This isn't the best example because it's from the part of the game when Michigan was actually trying to pass rush, and because I thought Jenkins and Smith messed up a stunt to leave a gaping hole Thorne could have run through instead of testing Rod Moore. But it's also a good example because Morris is doing an okay job and nobody else is getting anywhere near Thorne, particularly Taylor Upshaw, who's rushing from the bottom edge.

Michigan seemed to respect their opponent's legs to give Thorne the Sean Clifford treatment, where they have one guy trying to reach the quarterback and the rest on contain (a reverse of their approach against Iowa and Indiana). Michigan State also seemed to respect their opponent enough to have Thorne getting rid of the ball as soon as he felt even a wee bit of pressure. As with the 2020 game, until forced to throw downfield the passing game was either jump-ball fades to guys in single coverage or dump-offs; they do NOT trust his accuracy in any kind of real traffic.

I am also workshopping a theory that "Sean Clifford style" is just another way of saying "playing Taylor Upshaw." Brian questioned whether I meant Jaylen Harrell when I kept bringing up Upshaw on the edge on the podcast. Yes, I meant Upshaw, who was consistently placed on the edge in pass-rush situations. This happened against Penn State as well, and my guess is this is because they trust him most with contain and feared Thorne's legs more than the possibility he might get to third reads.

The issue here is when he goes against even a remotely competent line (read: anyone but Indiana), Upshaw can't even provide a D+ level of pass rush. This one is against two tight ends, at least until one of them is like "Uh, do you need me or should I go run a route"?

#91 DE at the top of the screen

Here he's the DT at the bottom and looping to try to get Okie into the guard, but that guard is so unworried about Upshaw that he's looking at Okie the whole way.

Michigan got some good plays out of Upshaw in the first half of the season by having him start at DT and do things like loop or drop into coverage or thwack a lineman who's supposed to be picking up Okie, but now that's been scouted. He's effective for a DT so I don't have an issue with him spotting Jenkins in Michigan's racecar package. He's the bottom DT here:



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