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1. The Tunnel Incident
starts at 1:00
We're hoping that Brad Robbins is enjoying his extended vacation. We discuss the tunnel incident. This was an assault and should be called such, doesn't matter which beat is discussing it. Even the Michigan vs Ohio State rivalry doesn't have stuff this bad happening. There have not been "three incidents" in the tunnel, the Ohio State one was just hooting and hollering. Penn State was hooting and hollering plus an airborne Uncrustable. Maybe Michigan should just double down on the hooting and hollering, it's not actually doing anything wrong. The post-game stuff on the field was just a fracas which is a rivalry thing that happens. Michigan State players now have a history of trying to intentionally injure Michigan players (going back to trying to twist Denard Robinson's neck), something we don't even see with Ohio State. McBurrows running into the tunnel is irrelevent to what those Michigan State players did to him. Maybe an honest punishment would be making the game be at Michigan Stadium next season?
[The rest of the writeup and the player after THE JUMP]
2. Offense vs Michigan State
starts at 23:47
Brian got the score right in the preview for once! 64-0 would've been nicer, though. Every note on Blake Corum is "that was good." There's nothing to say about him because... what can you say?? Everything is just... good. Redzone play calling could've been better. Ronnie Bell is a great blocker but is asked to make impossible blocks sometimes. It's starting to sound like Michigan might be able to run the ball really well on November 26- LALALALA NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT YET. JJ had some inconsistent incompletions, probably could've aired it out better but hey, you've got Blake Corum. You only lose this game by having six turnovers so maybe they played a little conservatively.
3. Hot Takes, Defense, and Game Theory
starts at 53:03
Takes significantly less hot than a Michigan State player in the aftermath of an ass beating by Michigan (switching it up a bit). TONE IT DOWN. Michigan State did one successful thing - heave the ball to Keon Coleman. You guys want to get into conspiracy Twitter about officiating and- nope. Being told we're not allowed to go there. Kris Jenkins played a great game. Overall the pressure was a little disappointing in this game. Okie didn't have a big game here, and neither against Penn State. Michigan should have more interceptions than they've had this year. Michigan State's tight ends go 'Blorp Blorp Blorp.' Brian makes noises. Which corner covers who against Ohio St- LALALA NEVER MIND. 'Twas a bad day for 6's. It was surprising seeing Michigan go for a block on 4th and 3. There was some trouble with the snap tee hee. Michigan has snapper depth, MICHIGAN STATE DOES NOT.
4. Around the Big Ten With Jamie Mac
starts at 1:28:09
Just gonna dive right into Penn State vs Ohio State. JT Tuamol- Tuimull- Tumulo- ... JTT tormented Penn State. A Penn State team that got waxed by Michigan had a 4th quarter lead... This looks like a beatable Ohio State team (*knock on all nearby available wood*). The Penn State Rube Goldberg drive. Ohio State couldn't get a screen pass going at all against Penn State. Did Ohio State just not prepare enough for Penn State? Maybe Penn State is built to defend Ohio State better than Michigan? Illinois vs Michigan is looking like maybe the [2nd] best Big Ten game this season. Illinois Purdue for the Big Ten West might be intriguing, though. Minnesota... uh... thoroughly beat Rutgers. Happy Rutgers week. Iowa scored 33 points!! Who should be under more duress, Pat Fitzgerald or Brian/Kirk Ferentz? What would a Gattis vs Ferentz matchup look like? THERE'S AN AFTER-CREDITS SCENE.
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Blue in Yarmouth
October 31st, 2022 at 7:40 AM ^
ahhhh, i was never a Gattis fan but didn't we have a Gattis-Ferentz matchup in the B1G championship last year? We know what one looks like and it didn't go that well for Ferentz.
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umich1
October 31st, 2022 at 7:40 AM ^
It seems like nobody is relating this back to the Kampfer/Conboy/Tropp incident, but it is one in the same. MSU players intentionally trying to injure Michigan players and being total goons. This has been going on for over a decade.
edit: just as I posted this, Brian brings up Conboy, albeit briefly. I think this is a key point.
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wildbackdunesman
October 31st, 2022 at 9:20 AM ^
I brought that up in the thread about no longer playing MSU.
We don't need to play MSU every year. They are trash morally. They need us, we are their season.
I'd sign a petition to make it every other year.
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The Fugitive
October 31st, 2022 at 7:58 AM ^
The closest thing I can think of regarding an OSU player intentionally trying to injure a Michigan player is Cameron Brown ripping off Roman Wilson’s helmet.
I wouldn’t count that though, I think that falls in the fracas category a la David Boston and Charles Woodson.
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bronxblue
October 31st, 2022 at 9:29 AM ^
Yeah, you see that often enough in games that I'd classify it as two guys just getting worked up.
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jmblue
October 31st, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^
Back in the Tressel era, OSU's Robert Reynolds choked the Wisconsin QB (Jim Sorgi) when he was down after a play. IIRC, Reynolds tried to pull something on Chris Perry also, but got shoved off him.
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Hannibal.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:07 AM ^
You guys don't remember OSU versus UM 2003? One of OSU's defensive tackles was caught on camera trying to twist Chris Perry's ankle in the pile after a play.
Earlier that year, OSU linebacker Robert Reynolds was suspended for choking QB Jim Sorgi.
OSU's defensive coordinator that year? Mark Dantonio.
He was a thug asshole coach who ran a thug asshole program.
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Hannibal.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:54 AM ^
Here is the play. Right after the play is over the D-lineman for OSU twists Perry's ankle and you can see Perry immediately grab it. I'm still pissed about that.
Dantonio was such a piece of dirty shit.
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Mad Trucker
October 31st, 2022 at 10:48 AM ^
This was the first incident that popped in my mind. Remember being in the stands and saw it plan as day. Then the crowd started chanting "PER-RY, PER-RY, PER-RY"
I never realized how well the chanting came across on the broadcast.
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markusr2007
October 31st, 2022 at 11:25 AM ^
Tony Henderson #79 piling on already knocked down Ohio St. QB Kirk Herbstreit in 1991 comes to mind. There are plenty of examples of poor sportsmanship in UM vs. Ohio St. That's gonna happen in rivalry games at times.
But at MSU the problem is endemic because it's a program made up of 2nd/3rd choices, indignant rejects, also rans, transfers and all out thugs who should not be playing college football.
https://youtu.be/f4J4s2Z0xMY
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Communist Football
October 31st, 2022 at 8:18 AM ^
Get MSU off the schedule.
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Hannibal.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:18 AM ^
Circumstances considered, the passing game stinks. We have enough data to know now. And the stinking is multifaceted. Sometimes it's McCarthy biffing makeable throws, sometimes it's terrible playcalling, sometimes it's C.J. filling his one drop per game quota, and sometimes it's mediocre receivers just not getting open. It's got to get fixed.
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King Tot
October 31st, 2022 at 9:25 AM ^
Or we didn't need to use the passing game because we were running at will. McCarthy completed 60% of his passes and we didn't have to punt until garbage time.
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L'Carpetron Do…
October 31st, 2022 at 10:18 AM ^
This is a little harsh but I agree that the passing attack underwhelmed in this game. I think we have a group of really talented receivers but it seems like they are being underutilized. We're going to need them in big games, especially against Ohio State and I hope the coaching staff has them ready. It seems like every drop back goes to Schoonmaker or Edwards out of the backfield.
A few weeks ago I told my buddies "I hope Harbaugh doesn't get so obsessed with running the ball that they don't even try to test State's secondary". And that's what happened. Ultimately it didn't matter but I thought this game was pretty frustrating for long stretches and we made their terrible backfield look pretty good. This could've been a 350-passing-yard game/coming out party for McCarthy but instead he had like 150 yards. I mean, it's fine, I guess? He's trying to perfect the blueprint that will beat Ohio State - but they're going to need to throw the ball too. M has a capable QB and good WRs, they should use them.
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McSomething
October 31st, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^
Michigan averaged 5+ yards/carry, with a long of 17. MSU sat back and dared Michigan to run, so they did. Don't get bored with success. Did a few too many field goals get attempted? Maybe. But that was the case until the last two or so conference games a year ago.
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King Tot
October 31st, 2022 at 11:22 AM ^
I think the FGs in particular were a sign of how little we respected MSU's offense.
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WolverineHistorian
October 31st, 2022 at 8:33 AM ^
Around the B1G - Illinois continues to surprise. The only time I’ve watched them this season was bits and pieces of their opening loss to Indiana (while flipping back and forth between 4 games) and then I was stupid enough to dedicate 10 minutes watching their game against Iowa, where any semblance of offense went to die. Illinois won 9-6.
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Hannibal.
October 31st, 2022 at 8:38 AM ^
They are really good, but man are they brutal to watch. The second half against Nebraska was terrible football.
With that said, I'm going to enjoy watching them pound the shit out of Sparty this weekend.
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