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[diabetes] Digest Number 9140

Diabetes Support/Encouragement Group

Messages In This Digest (17 Messages)

1a.
Re: Byetta Help From: ronishomer
1b.
Re: Byetta Help From: Karen Ogle
2a.
Re: medication finanacial assistance From: Edna Martin
3a.
Fwd: Reply From: Anne R
3b.
Re: Fwd: Reply From: [email protected]
3c.
Re: Reply From: Anne R
4a.
Re: New member meal question From: Lana Mayo
5a.
Re: BG levels and januvia From: Anne R
6a.
Abnormal EKG - Atenolol From: bonnie_calgaro
6b.
Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol From: E Guyton
6c.
Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol From: Phillip Cox
6d.
Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol From: Edna Martin
6e.
Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol From: Anne R
6f.
Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol From: BK
7a.
Re: In the Hospital... From: Anne R
7b.
Re: In the Hospital... From: Clare
8.
Back in the Hospital From: Anne R
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1a.

Re: Byetta Help

Posted by: "ronishomer" [email protected]   ronishomer

Sat Jan 9, 2010 11:07 am (PST)




Just saw my endo and she wasn't sure I should continue but the control and weightloss were very good things. She let me continue for a few more months to see what happens and if I can take it I will continue. The nausea and heart burn aren't all that bad, I can live with them but the runs are a real show stopper. They come and go so if they come too often I'll have to reevaluate. She kept me at 5ml for now (I think she thought the 10ml would send me to the hospital).
Thanks for the new site info, I'll check it out.
I'll keep you all informed as I progress.
Ron

--- In diabetes@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Ogle" <karenogle133@...> wrote:
>
> I would talk to your doctor and see if he thinks you should keep sticking it out. Or maybe he can give you something to relieve the side effects. I was successful with it for a while but then had the nausea and vomiting with it and had to stop. Sounds like it is working for you but I dont know if I could put up with the side effects. Until you decide something make sure to get plenty of fluids. Diarrhea can really dehydrate you.
> Karen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronishomer
> To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:26 PM
> Subject: [diabetes] Byetta Help
>
>
>
> Help, I've been on Byetta for a month now. I have and am living with every side affect listed and then some. Heart burn, nausea,diahreah, abdominal cramps but no throwing up yet.. but (Ain't there always a but) my BG levels have never been so good (some extra lows but not that low-- high sixties) and the real winner.. I've lost 11 pounds in a month without really trying..
> I know you will think its because of the side affects but i'm still eating soooooo what do you think.. live with the the bad till I've lost a lot of weight or give it up??
> Thanks
> Ron
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Re: Byetta Help

Posted by: "Karen Ogle" [email protected]   sunshinetenn40

Sat Jan 9, 2010 11:25 am (PST)



Ron,
I wish you the best with it. I hope eventually the side effects wear off. The only other suggestion I might make is to try some Probiotics. I cant officially recommend them but it is something I'm trying right now myself. They are supposed to help regulate bowel function and help with both chronic constipation and chronic diarrhea. I'm using the Acidophilus tablets with 1 billion active cultures. I take 2 a day but am going to increase that probably. A website I found set the dose as anywhere from 1 billion to 10 billion a day.
Anyway, I hope you will feel better soon.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: ronishomer
To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: [diabetes] Re: Byetta Help

Just saw my endo and she wasn't sure I should continue but the control and weightloss were very good things. She let me continue for a few more months to see what happens and if I can take it I will continue. The nausea and heart burn aren't all that bad, I can live with them but the runs are a real show stopper. They come and go so if they come too often I'll have to reevaluate. She kept me at 5ml for now (I think she thought the 10ml would send me to the hospital).
Thanks for the new site info, I'll check it out.
I'll keep you all informed as I progress.
Ron

--- In diabetes@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Ogle" <karenogle133@...> wrote:
>
> I would talk to your doctor and see if he thinks you should keep sticking it out. Or maybe he can give you something to relieve the side effects. I was successful with it for a while but then had the nausea and vomiting with it and had to stop. Sounds like it is working for you but I dont know if I could put up with the side effects. Until you decide something make sure to get plenty of fluids. Diarrhea can really dehydrate you.
> Karen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronishomer
> To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:26 PM
> Subject: [diabetes] Byetta Help
>
>
>
> Help, I've been on Byetta for a month now. I have and am living with every side affect listed and then some. Heart burn, nausea,diahreah, abdominal cramps but no throwing up yet.. but (Ain't there always a but) my BG levels have never been so good (some extra lows but not that low-- high sixties) and the real winner.. I've lost 11 pounds in a month without really trying..
> I know you will think its because of the side affects but i'm still eating soooooo what do you think.. live with the the bad till I've lost a lot of weight or give it up??
> Thanks
> Ron
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Re: medication finanacial assistance

Posted by: "Edna Martin" [email protected]   edna_martin2003

Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:57 pm (PST)



She /He could also see if the Doctor has free samples.
Edna in MIchigan

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From: Karen Ogle <karenogle133@charter.net>
To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:52:52 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetes] medication finanacial assistance

 
Your best bet is to contact whatever drug company produces the meds he takes. They often have programs for those in need.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: ericgef
To: diabetes@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: [diabetes] medication finanacial assistance

Can I have any links for medication financial assistance info, I have a friend with psych problems that needs medication and can not afford it, thanks

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Fwd: Reply

Posted by: "Anne R" [email protected]   aemr911

Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:57 pm (PST)



I am thinking this was supposed to go to the group, not just to me...
My last A1C was 6.8 I think.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <mrphone1@aol.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Subject: Reply
To: aemr911@gmail.com

Hi, get your a1c level below 6.5, then you are cooking with gas. . Endo's
want a1c levels below 6.5
Marty

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Re: Fwd: Reply

Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected]   erw477

Sat Jan 9, 2010 7:07 pm (PST)



Hi Anne,
Sometimes when a member wants to make a comment, suggestion etc to a
particular member, he/she will send the message to that person privately. Some
members prefer doing this rather than sending it to the entire group.

If you prefer not to receive private emails from members, all you have to
do is reply to them asking that they not contact you privately.

hugs
Eunice - Who can never have too many friends or too many books


In a message dated 1/9/2010 6:57:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
aemr911@gmail.com writes:

I am thinking this was supposed to go to the group, not just to me...

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Re: Reply

Posted by: "Anne R" [email protected]   aemr911

Sat Jan 9, 2010 9:13 pm (PST)



Hi,
Sorry, I didn't realize the message was meant for me. I thought they were
replying to someone else and it just went to me.
Anne

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Anne R <aemr911@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am thinking this was supposed to go to the group, not just to me...
> My last A1C was 6.8 I think.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <mrphone1@aol.com>
> Date: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:51 PM
> Subject: Reply
> To: aemr911@gmail.com
>
>
> Hi, get your a1c level below 6.5, then you are cooking with gas. . Endo's
> want a1c levels below 6.5
> Marty
>
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Re: New member meal question

Posted by: "Lana Mayo" [email protected]   finngal_deanne

Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:58 pm (PST)



You need to talk to you Endocrinologist and get into a class through your local hospital on managing diabetes.  They will teach you correct foods and proportions. You will feel much better after you know how to control calories and especially carbs.  Go on line to food4life.com and there are great diabetes recipes there too.

Lana  Mayo

--- On Mon, 1/4/10, benzo4321 <ruby.none@gmail.com> wrote:

From: benzo4321 <ruby.none@gmail.com>
Subject: [diabetes] New member meal question
To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 8:03 PM

 

When I first saw on the lab results that I was pre-diabetic, I didn't

realize what would happen next. I continued to eat large portions of food at lunch and dinner, only to find myself having scary heart and head symptoms. By eating smaller portions, I feel much better.

I am still waiting for the insurance company to mail me the glucose meter. In the meantime, I don't know how to feed myself enough. I am now eating only half amount of the food I used to eat. I take a whole afternoon eating a small salad and entire night eating a tiny small meal. I am hungry but afraid to eat more. My stomach aches because of the long stretch of feeding. I also do not have much energy, out of breath a lot.

For someone who was just diagnosed to have diabetes or prediabetes, how to test the right amount of food I can eat w/o getting into high glucose? How do I know if I actually need insulin to eat the

same amount of food I used to eat?

Thanks,

Ruby

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Re: BG levels and januvia

Posted by: "Anne R" [email protected]   aemr911

Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:58 pm (PST)



Thanks Iain!!
I learn something new everyday!!

Cool beans!
Anne

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Iain Jenkins <ijay1@btinternet.com> wrote:

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>
> Hi Anne,
>
> To clarify - you are using the US mg/dl system, the rest of the world use a
> different measure - mmol/l. To convert, multiply mg/dl figure by 18.
> In this case:
> 4.0 mmol/l = 72 mg/dl
> 7.0 mmol/l = 126 mg/dl
>
> With every good wish,
>
> Iain.
> T1 Essex, UK.
> Novorapid x3 & Lantus x1 daily injections,
> Current A1C Jul 09 5.4.
>
> Help diabetics to reach their full potential through athletic endeavours:
> http://www.insulindependence.org
> http://www.give-a-latte.org
>
> > What is Januiva. I live in Cananda so the Dr's say my average should be
> be
>
> > around 7.0, at 4.0 or so and below I get dizzy and need to eat
> immediately,
>
> > I also carry apply juice, glucose tablets, my BG kit and Insulin with me
>
> > when I go out, just in case.
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> >
>
> 7.0 sounds like your A1C level, not a blood glucose number that you would
>
> test for, but I could be confused.
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Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

Posted by: "bonnie_calgaro" [email protected]   bonnie_calgaro

Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:58 pm (PST)



Hi,
I am a 65 year old female - diabetic, hypertension, high cholesterol.
I had a CT for cysts on my kidneys and the test revealed a large gallstone. I was advised to have it removed and had all the pre-op testing completed. My EKG was read and the PCP said it was abnormal so she started me on 25mg of Atenolol and ordered a Thallium Stress Test that will be in two weeks. She canceled the gallstone surgery until the results of the stress test come back.

My question is: What is wrong with my heart.

Please respond.
Thank you - Bonnie

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Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

Posted by: "E Guyton" [email protected]   eguyton_77

Sat Jan 9, 2010 9:13 pm (PST)



I believe that this question should be answered by a good Cardiologist, but that being said, my mother said that she takes Atenolol for both blood pressure reduction and controlling her irregular (Atrial Fibrulation) heartbeat. This may NOT apply to you, so I emphasize that you ask a "Heart Specialist."
Good Luck!

________________________________
From: bonnie_calgaro <retirement2004@verizon.net>
To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 12:08:06 PM
Subject: [diabetes] Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

 
Hi,
I am a 65 year old female - diabetic, hypertension, high cholesterol.
I had a CT for cysts on my kidneys and the test revealed a large gallstone. I was advised to have it removed and had all the pre-op testing completed. My EKG was read and the PCP said it was abnormal so she started me on 25mg of Atenolol and ordered a Thallium Stress Test that will be in two weeks. She canceled the gallstone surgery until the results of the stress test come back.

My question is: What is wrong with my heart.

Please respond.
Thank you - Bonnie

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Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

Posted by: "Phillip Cox" [email protected]   enigma960080

Sat Jan 9, 2010 9:13 pm (PST)



My doctor also said my EKG was abnormal. I was also told I was born with a heart murmur. and that I will die with a heart murmur, but I will not die FROM the heart murmur. I underwent a chemical stress test also. No further abnormalities were found.

But only your Doc can tell you exactly whats going on with your heart!

________________________________
From: bonnie_calgaro <retirement2004@verizon.net>
To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 10:08:06 AM
Subject: [diabetes] Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

Hi,
I am a 65 year old female - diabetic, hypertension, high cholesterol.
I had a CT for cysts on my kidneys and the test revealed a large gallstone. I was advised to have it removed and had all the pre-op testing completed. My EKG was read and the PCP said it was abnormal so she started me on 25mg of Atenolol and ordered a Thallium Stress Test that will be in two weeks. She canceled the gallstone surgery until the results of the stress test come back.

My question is: What is wrong with my heart.

Please respond.
Thank you - Bonnie

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Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

Posted by: "Edna Martin" [email protected]   edna_martin2003

Sat Jan 9, 2010 9:13 pm (PST)



Ask or have your doctor explain whats wrong --Atenolol is used for several different things  - I take it for high blood pressure and high heart rate, but only your doc can tell you why she prescribed it.
Edna

________________________________
From: bonnie_calgaro <retirement2004@verizon.net>
To: diabetes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 1:08:06 PM
Subject: [diabetes] Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

 
Hi,
I am a 65 year old female - diabetic, hypertension, high cholesterol.
I had a CT for cysts on my kidneys and the test revealed a large gallstone. I was advised to have it removed and had all the pre-op testing completed. My EKG was read and the PCP said it was abnormal so she started me on 25mg of Atenolol and ordered a Thallium Stress Test that will be in two weeks. She canceled the gallstone surgery until the results of the stress test come back.

My question is: What is wrong with my heart.

Please respond.
Thank you - Bonnie

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Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

Posted by: "Anne R" [email protected]   aemr911

Sat Jan 9, 2010 9:15 pm (PST)



Bonnie,
Just because your EKG was abnormal doesn't mean that there is for sure
anything wrong with your heart. The doctor is just being thorough and
making sure everything is alright I am guessing.
If you are really concerned about it I would call your doctor on Monday and
ask them why they put you on the drug and what they are looking for with the
Thallium stress test. Go to the horse's mouth, don't let your imagination
run away from you because you will only stress you out.
Good Luck & Lots of Hugs!!
Anne

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:08 PM, bonnie_calgaro
<retirement2004@verizon.net>wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
> I am a 65 year old female - diabetic, hypertension, high cholesterol.
> I had a CT for cysts on my kidneys and the test revealed a large gallstone.
> I was advised to have it removed and had all the pre-op testing completed.
> My EKG was read and the PCP said it was abnormal so she started me on 25mg
> of Atenolol and ordered a Thallium Stress Test that will be in two weeks.
> She canceled the gallstone surgery until the results of the stress test come
> back.
>
> My question is: What is wrong with my heart.
>
> Please respond.
> Thank you - Bonnie
>
>
>

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Re: Abnormal EKG - Atenolol

Posted by: "BK" [email protected]   kinney49

Sat Jan 9, 2010 10:13 pm (PST)



--- In diabetes@yahoogroups.com, "bonnie_calgaro" <retirement2004@...> wrote: I am a 65 year old female - diabetic, hypertension, high cholesterol.I had a CT for cysts on my kidneys and the test revealed a large gallstone.I was advised to have it removed and had all the pre-op testing completed. My EKG was read and the PCP said it was abnormal so she started me on 25mg of Atenolol and ordered a Thallium Stress Test that will be in two weeks. She canceled the gallstone surgery until the results of the stress test come back. My question is: What is wrong with my heart>

Gee, pick up the phone on Monday AM, call your doc's office, and ask!

Atenolol is a very common generic blood pressure pill that has the welcome side effect of lowering the pulse rate, for one thing. AFAIK, 25 mg is a fairly small dose.

65, overweight, hypertensive, with lipid issues and a diabetic, I think any doc worth her salt would have ordered a stress test before surgery anyway, whether or not your EKG looked A-OK. But do ask the doc's office to call you back with the info about what she saw on your EKG, what she could tell, and what she couldn't tell, by looking at your tracings.

~BK~

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Re: In the Hospital...

Posted by: "Anne R" [email protected]   aemr911

Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:01 pm (PST)



I didn't say I had any pop. It is true that I can ONLY have regular pop not
diet because I am allergic to the artifical sweeteners, but I don't drink
that much pop anymore. It doesn't taste right to me anymore. Actually
nothing lately beverage wise has tasted right.
I did get an Iced Tea maker for Xmas from my parents in hopes that I can cut
out pop all together and just have Iced Tea, we will see. My Mom sent me
home with all her boxes of tea.
Does tea really expire, or if it is past the expiration date, does it just
mean it isn't as potent as it once was??

I hate water plain unless it is ice cold, and even that right now doesn't
taste good.
I am exhausted so I think I am going to bed now.
Anne

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, daisytrench
<catherine.snider@colorado.edu>wrote:

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>
>
> And so will soda pop!
>
> It might be best, Anne, if you stopped eating the sugary things, especially
> while you are being hospitalized for high-blood sugar.
>
> I thoughts go out to you, Anne, and I hope you get better soon.
>
> But come on, soda pop? No one in this group should be drinking soda pop.
>
> FYI: I've just come from the endocrinologist, who showed me how to use the
> glucagon pen should my boyfriend ever need it. His A1c was 8.4 which is too
> high for long-term health. It really makes me mad that he won't stop putting
> cookies and candy in his mouth.
>
> Cathy
>
> --- In diabetes@yahoogroups.com <diabetes%40yahoogroups.com>, "Valma B"
> <Valmr2@...> wrote:
> >
> > So will steroids!
> > Val
> >
> > --- In diabetes@yahoogroups.com <diabetes%40yahoogroups.com>, Linda
> <windsweptacademy01@> wrote:
> > >
> > > toast, apple juice and orange juice are all going to hike up your BG.
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
>
>
>

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Re: In the Hospital...

Posted by: "Clare" [email protected]   byrdroots

Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:46 pm (PST)



Anne,

Tea doesn't expire as in "go bad" but it won't have as much flavor. I
would personally never throw tea away, especially since you have an iced
tea maker. I use mine at least once every day during the warm weather :)
When you get fresh tea, store it in zip locs in the freezer to keep the
maximum flavor.

Ethel

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Back in the Hospital

Posted by: "Anne R" [email protected]   aemr911

Sat Jan 9, 2010 9:14 pm (PST)



Hi All,

I am back in the hospital again. Started peeing blood Thursday evening,
tried to tell myself that it was my period, or something else, but when I
woke up in PAIN in my back and bladder and generally feeling even more
crappy I went to urgent care today and I have a huge UTI and kidney
infection.

The urgent care doctor sent to the ER for IV antibiotics since I am allergic
to all the oral antibiotics. It took 8 tries (I think, I lost count) to
get the IV in, so with lots of begging from me and the RN that got it in,
they decided to admit me. Originally the doctors at the Urgent care and the
doc on-call for my clinic thought I could just come to the ER have a dose of
IV antibiotics and then they would pull the IV and have me come back again
12 hours later to do it again. I was like "I don't think so!" So Kristen
RN went to bat for me and they finally agreed to admit me for IV therapy.

If I have to be on them longer than just a couple of days (usually more than
a week if we go by previous times IV antibiotics were needed) I am hoping
they will just put a PICC line in so that I can do my IV Vancomycin at
home. I really miss my family and with Terry feeling icky too, I don't get
any visitors while here. Didn't have any visitors the last time I was here
either.

I am feeling really crappy, big surprise.. NOT! I am not sure what I think
about the hospitalist doctor that is writing my orders at the moment but
whatever. Hopefully he will just do what I want and things can go
smoothly. I did bring all my stuff into the hospital with me this time so
I don't have to go through having the Valet guys go get my truck to get
clean clothes and such while I am an inpatient... had to do that last
time... it was a total pain.

I sure felt like a psych patient walking into the hospital today with my
Oxygen bag, duffle bag of clothes & such, my purse, and my pillow. When I
worked the ER as a nursing assistant we used to have psych patients come in
with their suitcases to be admitted. Ironically because they are ripping
apart the ER to remodel it, I was in one of the psych rooms today. But they
promised me I wasn't considered a psych patient. I guess you'd have to be
there to think it is funny if you don't see the humor in it at the moment.

Well before I get caught on the computer I will go for now, plus I am
shaking really bad from standing here so I am going to lay down now. I
hope everyone is having a good evening!!

Anne

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