This is a FAQ to answer the most frequent questions that SkyEagle Aviation Academy receives. This article is for Foreign airline pilots without an FAA Airline Transport Pilot Certificate who would like to earn this Certificate. This article concerns inquiring commercial pilots with at least 1500 hours of logged total time.
A good example of an inquiry we receive that we would like to answer here is “How can I get an Faa Atp License if I am rated to fly an Airbus A320 in another country?” This common question is easily answered.
Steps to receive FAA ATP License based on foreign ATP License
- How can I get a FAA ATP license if I am an operating foreign airline pilot with a A320 type rating (for example)?
1) Apply for validation and obtain Letter of Verification.
2) Find a school that offers courses ATP-CTP we offer courses of our partners, the cheapest in the US for $ 3,800. These are mandatory courses that every ATP candidate must pass through.
3) Obtain TSA approval for the ATP-CTP course and type Rating (if you want to simultaneously get a rating). After arrival in the US, you will be fingerprinted and those prints will be entered into a TSA database.
4) Pass the ATP-CTP course and type rating training (if needed).
5) Take the Written exam on the computer (125 questions for 4 hours, passing score 70%). You may take the exam at our FAA approved testing facility for the affordable price of $185.
6) After passing the courses you will pass ATP check ride with or without a type rating (on the simulator or in a twin-engine aircraft)
That was the 30,000 foot view of this process. The rest of the article is an elaboration of each of those 6 steps listed above.
- What is validation? How do I obtain validation? Why do I need it anyway?
You must send documents for validation and receive a Letter of Verification from the FAA. The US Federal Government will confirm that you have a valid license in another country. Many people ask – why do I need to do this if the FAA will test my flying ability when I take the ATP Check Ride? The answer to this lies within FAA rules and regulations. According to federal aviation regulations, section 61.153 “Requirements for candidates for a license for ATP FAA” (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/61.153).
It clearly states that a candidate for FAA ATP must either have:
(1) Holds a commercial pilot certificate with an instrumentrating issued under this part;
(2) Meet the military experience requirements under § 61.73 of this part to qualify for a commercial pilot certificate, and an instrumentrating if the person is a rated military pilot or former rated military pilot of an Armed Force of the United States; or
(3)Holds either a foreign airline transport pilot license with instrument privileges, or a foreign commercial pilot license with an instrument rating, that –
(i) Was issued by a contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation; and
(ii) Contains no geographical limitations.
In conclusion, validation is necessary because there are prerequisites in order to get an ATP license. Validation is the process in which the FAA confirms that you have had valid foreign ATP or Commercial foreign license.
- How do I submit documents for validation?
2) Download the application under the link: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Form/AC_Form_8060-71.pdf
3) and then Fill, sign, and scan the application. One of the points of the application (paragraph 11) is a point of confusion for many applicants. Enter: “PPL Multiengine, Instrument rating”. This is not of critically important, because ANY AND ALL foreign licenses are validated with a FAA PPL. About this we have a separate section: http://skyeagle.aero/add_services/validation_faa/
4) Scan your medical certificate. Make sure that it is valid, bilingual and contains your full name as it appears in your passport and is in accordance with your license.
- What is the TSA? Why is it necessary to get TSA approval and how do I get it?
After the TSA examines your application and they can confirm everything you will need to be fingerprinted. They can be handed in either with the police or with a special TSA agent. A list of which can be found on the website above. We provide our own agent for the cost of $90 and he does everything in one day.
- The TSA application process can take 4-5 weeks. You may view your application progression on the homepage of https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/ and see quickly you may be approved. Keep this in mind when planning the start of your training, because if you signed up for ATP-CTP on June 1, 2017, and you decided to apply for TSA 10 days before the start of the course, there is a considerable risk that you will be unable to fly for a few weeks. Easily avoidable if there is some preparation!
- There are often problems with foreign last times. Sometimes they want the last name to be both in the pilot’s certificate and in the “Middle Name” field. Sometimes they want the name and last name to be together in the same “First Name” field. Have this in mind – how you wrote your name with the TSA will follow you everywhere; in a medical certificate, in a pilot certificate, in the results of a written test, in the FAA database, and so on. You must be careful with how you present your name because Americans attach great importance to bureaucracy. We know cases when the examiner refused to take exams because the medical certificate was written with a middle name, and the written exam did not have the middle name. If two “people” on paper do not coincide, then one paper is not valid and the examination can not be accepted (well, such logic is with the examiner).
- Sometimes fingerprinting takes more than 1-2 days. Make sure you have 2-3 days between arriving to the US and starting your ATP program.
- How much is this going to cost me?
The truth is, it is impossible to be exact when quoting any flight training. Flight training varies on an individual basis and some pilots may grasp concepts faster than others.
- $130 – TSA authorization for the ATP-CTP course
- $90 – fingerprints
- $3800 – ATP-CTP program
- $185 – written test
- $3500 – a rough estimate of training costs (7-10 hours on a twin-engine Beechcraft dutchess) and a checker with an examiner
- $900 – fee of the examiner
- $130 – TSA authorization for the ATP-CTP course
- $130 – TSA authorization for the type rating course
- $90 – fingerprints
- $3800 – ATP-CTP program
- $185 – written test
- $11,200 – Airbus 320 type rating (14 days)
- $130 – TSA authorization for the ATP-CTP course
- $130 – TSA authorization for the type rating course
- $90 – fingerprints
- $3800 – ATP-CTP program
- $185 – written test
- $8,200 – Airbus 320 type upgrade / Foreign License Conversion
Best regards!
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