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Stephen Herron Decommits

Stephen Herron Decommits BiSB July 23rd, 2018 at 2:58 PM

Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man. Stephen Herron's decommitment went from foregone conclusion to likely outcome to possible outcome, but after spending several weeks denying any ongoing interest in Stanford, Herron finally yanked the band-aid.

The most likely scenario was that Herron hadn't gotten formal word from Stanford admissions, and has now received said word. Herron was a composite five-star until recently, and remains a top-100 prospect.

Michigan now has three defensive end commits, 5-star SDE Chris Hinton, 3.5-star-for-now SDE David Ojabo and 3-star WDE Gabe Newburg, and will presumably look to replace Herron in the class. They remain Lloyd-Christmas-There's-A-Chance interested in 5-stars Zach Harrison (a presumed Ohio State lock) and George Karlaftis (a Purdue commit).  The Herron news may actually help somewhat with 3-star DE Aeneas DiCosmo, who seems to be down to Michigan and Stanford. 

Michigan's class is now down to 18 commits, and is ranked #9 in the country and #2 in the Big Ten behind Ohio State.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:17 PM ^

Some folks were not particularly upset after seeing his Opening performance.

Still would have liked to see what Mr. Mustache Brown could have done with him.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:17 PM ^

People are going to lose their shit after the Hinton kid goes. 

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July 23rd, 2018 at 4:09 PM ^

Where did you pull that out of?  Provide some kind of evidence or insight that he's been looking around, or STHU.  

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July 23rd, 2018 at 8:15 PM ^

It's always been tough to pull high end prospects out of the south. It's been done, even recently, but I wouldn't be shocked if Hinton doesn't end up in the class. It's more the norm than the outlier. 

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July 23rd, 2018 at 5:51 PM ^

Dave, let me give it to you Straight - you're an asshole.

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July 24th, 2018 at 10:47 PM ^

As seen by the unhinged replies to Dave - this place rates LOW in comment quality.   Back in the early days it was excellent.   It’s now a wasteland of pompous prickishness.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^

A verbal commitment is like a pledge to marry. It's not official until you tie the knot. Seems like he has had his eyes on the other pretty girl and was waiting for her to say yes. Best of luck to him. 

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July 23rd, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^

True enough, but he also kept telling the first girl he loved her, which is pretty bad form.

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July 24th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^

Eh, recruiting is basically the college sports version of The Bachelor. 

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July 23rd, 2018 at 6:27 PM ^

I'm partial to the "Dinner Reservation" analogy. We'll hold you a table if you say you're coming. But these things get cancelled from time to time.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^

Good Luck Stephen, enjoy Cali.

Send Giles Jackson, Isaiah Foskey and Kyle Ford this way; M 'kay? Thx!

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:20 PM ^

My kids believe if you chant something over and over you will get it.

Karlaftis!  KARlaftis!   KAR-LAF-TIS!


July 23rd, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^

If "waiting for admissions" is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, then I can't begrudge a person the desire to go to a great academic institution like Stanford.

Now, if he had flipped to Alabama or Michigan State...

Best of luck to him.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^

I disagree.  If a kid is waiting for something from an academic institution, don't commit somewhere else until you know.  Saying these are young kids doesn't fly with me either - lots of eighteen year old kids are overseas and in our armed forces making life and death decisions.  It isn't fair to another kid who might have taken the spot and stuck with it, but then committed somewhere else because the opportunity appeared to be gone.

It is pure selfishness.  I also get that there are circumstances that sometimes dictate that a verbal commitment needs to change.  This isn't one of those times.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:44 PM ^

But what if Harbs said to commit here before he got word from Stanford?  I wouldn't be surprised if that were true, though I do prefer to share your opinion on it.  

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:47 PM ^

Don't be pedantic about the word "commitment." Nothing is committed until a LOI is in, and everybody involved understands that that's the way it is. "Committing" to a university before national signing day simply indicates that there's strong mutual interest, and it's often necessary to express that level of interest to stake a claim to a place in the class.

If a school can pull an offer to a "committed" prospect, I don't begrudge a prospect from switching a commitment if his situation changes.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^

You bring up a good point I hadn't thought of before regarding the other kid who might have sought a UM recruitment. 

That said, I have a hard time with him looking out for himself when the way the system is set up the school can always drop it's commitment. 

Early in my career I chose to leave a job once after working there a month. I felt really guilty. My Dad looked at me and said "Son, do you think if they needed to let you go for budgetary reasons they'd think twice? Take the better job'. 

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July 23rd, 2018 at 3:55 PM ^

*DONT* have a hard time with him looking out for himself. I wish we could edit posts. 

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July 23rd, 2018 at 7:35 PM ^

No politics.

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July 23rd, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^

Now if you hold off on committing, you risk losing your spot. Michigan has 3 other DEs committed already, Michigan is already recruiting multiple other DEs. There is no guarantee that had he waited, his spot would still be there.

Youre also comparing a kid who just finished his junior year of high school (so he’s 16 or maybe 17) to adults who graduated high school. He’s called a kid because he IS a kid. 

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July 23rd, 2018 at 6:08 PM ^

It's not selfish. It's the landscape.

Programs send out hundreds of offers, most of them merely window dressing, unless, of course, the coaches miss out on their top targets and decide to then pursue some of those original offers seriously. It's a backup plan, the same as the players. 

Kids commit to the best school they can to ensure a spot and gain visibility. Perhaps a better offer comes along or perhaps it doesn't, but it's not selfish. Ensure your spot at the best program you can, and if that offer you really want comes along you decommit. It's the game.  

And these are indeed young people, with a million voices in their ears and a huge decision to make at a young age. Your argument about the kids overseas doesn't hold either, because if they decided to join the military in the first place they've already shown that youthful, ill-advised decision making process. 

The word commit in college athletics has changed, and everybody seems to understand that - coaches, players, fans - expect these, "Stick by your word. If you commit, you commit," purists.  

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