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Cox and Bates : Not CMI's Best on Egypt, I'd Say (but then I am Biassed)

One of the things we noticed is that you presumed that the Exodus took place in the 13th Dynasty. We know some Christians have advocated this period. But conventionally this dynasty has been attributed to the Middle Kingdom or even added to the 2nd Intermediate Period of the Hyksos. We would advocate a New Kingdom Exodus and most likely during the 18th Dynasty.

CMI, Feedback archive → Feedback 2020
Can we understand Egyptian chronology before the Exodus?
Published: 12 September 2020 (GMT+10), CMI’s Gavin Cox and Gary Bates respond.

However, getting Moses born in the 12th and Exodus in the 13th is advocated on CMI:

Searching for Moses
by David Down | This article is from
Journal of Creation 15(1):53–57, April 2001

Habermehl differs from David Down, by making, not Moses, but the pharao of Exodus Amenamhet IV, placing thereby Exodus already in the 12th and making 13th a post-Exodus and probable Hyksos dynasty.

It so happens, I put the equation "child killer" (and therefore 1590 BC) = Sesostris III at one of the nodes of my tables, and here is how Down argued it:

One of the last kings of the 12th dynasty was Sesostris III. His statues depict him as a cruel tyrant quite capable of inflicting harsh slavery on his subjects. His son was Amenemhet III, who seems to have been an equally disagreeable character. He probably ruled for 46 years, and Moses would have been born near the beginning of his reign.

Amenemhet III may have had one son, known as Amenemhet IV, who was an enigmatic character who may have followed his father or may have been a co-regent with him. If the latter, Amenemhet IV could well have been Moses. Amenemhet IV mysteriously disappeared off the scene before the death of Amenemhet III.

Amenemhet III had a daughter whose name was Sobekneferu. It is known that she had no children.6 If she was the daughter of Pharaoh who came down to the river to bathe, it is easy to understand why she was there. It was not because she had no bathroom in her palace. She would have been down there taking a ceremonial ablution and praying to the river god Hapi, who was also the god of fertility. Having no children she would have needed such a god, and when she found the beautiful baby Moses there she would have considered it an answer to her prayers (Exodus 2:5–6).

But of course, Cox and Bates have other qualities, notably Bates admits reality of UFO sightings, as sightings, attributing them to demons. Which would be fairly correct at least for some of them./HGL


However, as shown in the aforementioned recommended article and also in our article Evidence of Hebrews in Egypt, it demonstrates that if we take the biblical date for the Exodus c. 1,446 BC it puts the Exodus within the realm of New Kingdom dates.

First, with Temple in 1032 BC, Biblical date for Exodus (as per III Kings) is 1510 BC. Second, even 1446 BC would arguably be inflated in Egyptian chronology and in carbon dates.

Third, the inflation would be small and fit nicely with 80 years inflation in Kenyon's 1550 BC carbon date for abandoned Jericho./HGL

This post first appeared on Creation Vs Evolution, please read the originial post: here

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Cox and Bates : Not CMI's Best on Egypt, I'd Say (but then I am Biassed)


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