The relationship between Tamil and Sanatana Dharma is intriguing.
Their relationship is one of cordiality , mutual respect and admiration for each other.
The Tamil Kings are spoken of highly in the Vedas and Puranas.
They were invited to the Swayamvara of. Damayanthi, who predates Lord Rama, Rama Sita marriage, Draupadi Swayamvara and Yudhistra’s Rajasuya Yaga.
Tamil King Udiyan Cherallathan provided food for both the Pandava and Kaurava armies during the Mahabharata War.
Vedic India
Madurai Meenakshi’s father Malayathdwaja participated in the Mahabharata war fighting along side the Pandavas.
Lord Krishna was invited to Tamil Poets ‘Conclave at Madurai(probably the Thenmadurai, now sunk) and he participated in it.
Krishna and Arjuna married Pandyan Princesses;Krishna had a daughter and had her married to a Pandyan Prince, while Arjuna had a son.
Krishna’s elder brother Balarama visited south and worshiped Lord Subrahmanya.
And of course Parashurama, who established the present Kerala.
Sage Viswamitra’s descendant Apasthamba wrote the Veda Sutra called Apasthama Sutra by integrating Tamil practices like Thaali, Mangalya, which is not found in the Vedas.
Brahmins in the south of India follow Apasthamba sutra even today.
Rama’ ancestor Vaivaswatha Manu migrated from the south to Ayodhya to found Ikshvaku Dynasty.
Manu migrated to Ayodhya because of a Tsunami recorded in Tamil Classic, Sangam Literature.
So there should have been no presence of any dynasty in the north if we go by this hypothesis .
However there was a Chola king, who ruled from North, much before the great Flood.
He was King Sibi and Cholas call themselves the descendants of Kashyapa.
This Sibi is mentioned in Tamil Literature and in Puranas a belonging to Suryavansh.
He built a temple near Srirangam in Tamil Nadu for Lord Vishnu.
It is the Thiruvellarai Pundareekakshar temple, about 20km from Srirangam
Sibi is reported to have fought an army of Asuras here.
Asuras mean powerful, yet evil intentioned.
King Sibi ruled from Pakistan?
And we have a a site of about a Million years in Chennai which belongs to advanced Tamil civilization.
Another one is at Adhichanallur which dates back to 11000 years.
Thee site refer to Sanatana Dharma.
And Sanatana Dharma refer Tamils!
Tamil Brahmi is found in Harappa.
Tamil Sangam period Towns,harbor names are found in Indus Valley Civilization.
Thee names are.
Vanji, capital of Chera Kingdom,
Gorkai, in Afghanistan
a Pandya harbor, Matrai(Madurai), Urai(Uraiyur capital of Cholas), Koodal kat(kodal, name for Madurai),in Pakistan,
‘சிந்துவெளி மற்றும் அரப்பாவில் ”கொற்கை, வஞ்சி, தொண்டி வளாகம்”
சிந்துவெளியில் சங்கத் தமிழரின் துறைமுகங்கள், தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் ஊர்களின் பெயர்கள்
பாகிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Gorkai. Gorkhai), வஞ்சி (Vanji), தொண்டி(Tondi), மத்ரை (Matrai), உறை (Urai), கூடல் கட் (Kudal Garh) மற்றும் கோளி (Koli); ஆப்கானிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Korkay. Gorkay). பூம்பகார் (Pumbakar) ஆகிய ஊர்ப் பெயர்கள் சங்க இலக்கியங்களில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ள தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் துறைமுக நகரங்களின் பெயர்களான கொற்கை. வஞ்சி. தொண்டி. மதுரை. உறையூர். கூடல். கோழி. பூம்புகார் ஆகியவற்றை நினைவுபடுத்துகின்றன.
Lord Rama, whose name is found in the Sumerian King List as a King of Sumer,along with Dasaratha and Bharata, fought a war against Atlantis people to help Horus , on of Osiris,.
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Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’
After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.’
The Atlantis army met with Rama’s Army in Rishi City, now in Pakistan…..
There were four ancient empires.
Rama’s Empire,
Atlantis Empire,
Uighur Empire and
Lemurian Empire.
Of these Uighur was not very advanced and Lemuria which had been on the wane was trying to recoup.
They were suppressed by the Atlantis people.
In the Atlantis, Osiris’ son Horus entered into an alliance with Rama to defeat Seth who was trying to become independent in the Sumerian valley.
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Rama Dropped Atom Bomb Mohenjo daro
This means that Mohenjo Daro was a flourishing civilization before the Rama War with Atlantis people.
Yet there was a Chola King much before the advent of Rama.
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The contention of Dr Parpola and the Dravidian politicians of Tamilnadu is that Tamils have descended form the IVC locations of North India. The verse by poet Kapilar in fact traces the origins of the King IrungoveL to Dwaraka. He says that he belonged to the 49th generation of the king who was born of the Sacrificial Fire conducted by the sage of the North. This king ruled Dwaraka, so says the poet. Reserving the other details of this verse for a future post, I am now concentrating on another description in that song.
( There is another interpretation on the interpretatiion of the term Sacrificial fire
Kapilar describes Dwaraka as being surrounded by walls made of copper.
நீயே, வடபால் முனிவன் தடவினுள் தோன்றிச்,
செம்பு புனைந்து இயற்றிய சேண்நெடும் புரிசை,
உவரா ஈகைத், துவரை ஆண்டு,
நாற்பத்து ஒன்பது வழிமுறை வந்த
வேளிருள் வேளே!
This means “O king IrungoveL! you were the 49th king in the lineage of the king, who was born of the sacrificial fire conducted by the sage and ruled Dwarka which was surrounded by long / tall walls of copper.”
From the commentary that Dr U.Ve.Sa found out form the palm leaf manuscripts :-
“நீ தான் வட பக்கத்து முனிவனுடைய ஓம குண்டத்தின் கண் தோன்றிச் செம்பால் புனைத்து செய்தாலொத்த சேய்மையை உடைத்தாகிய நெடிய மதிலை உடைய துவராவதி என்னும் படை வீட்டை ஆண்டு, வெறுப்பில்லாத கொடையினை உடையராய் நாற்பத்தொன்பது தலைமுறை தொன்றுபட்டு வந்த வேள்களுள் வைத்து வேளாய்உள்ளாய்!”..
‘This king was not in Dwaraka when Kapilar met him and sang this verse. He was ruling some part of the western ghats in present day’s Karnataka. This Vel’s kingdom was different from the Tamil lands of the 3 kings (Chera, Chola and Pandya). The next verse was on the same king sung by Kapilar in which he describes his land in the hills.
This king’s palace was not surrounded by walls of copper. Copper walls were there in the kingdom of his ancestors in Dwaraka.Assuming that 3 kings lived per century, we can say that 1600 years have passed by the time this 49th king had come into being. The period of this king is not exactly known, but can be deciphered from Kapilar’s other connections. Kapilar was a close friend of another VeL king, Paari who was killed by the 3 Tamil kings. Kapilar took care of Parri’s orphaned daughters and approached another Vel king, IrungoveL to request him to marry the two daughters of Paari. This verse contains that request.
https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/irungovel-tamil-king-and-hoysalas-founder-the-same/
So there seems to be a Dynasty belonging to Suryavansh in the North and it declined or swallowed by Tsunami from the Arabian Sea, this could have either the second or the first Great flood mentioned in the Tamil Classics.
And we have references to Sage Agastya, settling the people from the sinking Dwaraka in Tamil Nadu and the present Karnataka.
Considering all this I proposed that there could have been two Tamil Empires.
As t whether Tamils came from the Sanatana Dharma people or vice versa, it is difficult t postulate.
I am providing an abstract from one theory on this.
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Abstract
Can Sankam corpus, the ancient extant Dravidian literature, be a source to identify the language of the Indus script; a collateral evidence to estimate the ethno-linguistic composition of Indus Civilization? I seek to answer this question in affirmative.
I have located a group of place names in the Indus –Harappan geographies (modern Pakistan and adjoining regions), which I choose to call as “Korkay, Vanji, Tondi Complex.” This ‘complex’ contains perfect parallels to “Korkai-Vanji-Tondi” and many other geographical names and anthroponyms attested in Sankam Tamil texts.
I propose that these identical name-heritage complexes of the north-western geographies and the extreme south provide reliable markers for the probable migration of Dravidians following the collapse of Indus Valley Civilization. I call in the evidence of “bone-eating camel” described in Akananooru as a testimony for the earlier presence of Dravidians in the north-western geographies (particularly Gujarat).
And, I conclude that the Sankam corpus in part represents the ‘carried forward memories’ of a remote past, the coordinates of which can be traced back to the Indus Valley Civilization and late Harappan cultures and relevant geographies.’
http://new.modernrationalist.com/2013/07/tamil-indus-korkayvanjitondiin-the-north-west-and-a-bone-eating-camel-in-the-cankam-text/
My view is that there were two cultures, Tamil and Sanatana Dharma coexisting , thugh slightly different in their approach to Life.
That these two acknowledge their differences yet respected each other i a great lesson for us.
References and citations.
https://tamilvaralaru.wordpress.com/2014/12/03/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%8A%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%A4/
http://new.modernrationalist.com/2013/07/tamil-indus-korkayvanjitondiin-the-north-west-and-a-bone-eating-camel-in-the-cankam-text/
https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2016/10/27/two-tamil-empires-in-india-northwest-south-india-missing-history/
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