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Neanderthal Probably Innocent of Giantism? And other smaller tidbits of questions


I Neanderthal Probably Innocent of Giantism?


  • 1) Not six fingers and six toes:

    I Chronicles 20:[6] There was another battle also in Geth, in which there was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand and foot: who also was born of the stock of Rapha

  • 2) Not extraordinary height:

    Deuteronomy 3:[11] For only Og king of Basan remained of the race of the giants. His bed of iron is shewn, which is in Rabbath of the children of Ammon, being nine cubits long, and four broad after the measure of the cubit of a man's hand.

    Haydock gives two versions of what this might mean:

    His bed was 13½ feet long, and 6½ feet broad, taking the cubit at least 18 inches, with Arbuthnot; though Calmet allows 20½ French inches, which are greater than ours. As beds are commonly made larger than the person who lies in them, he concludes that Og might be 14 or 15 feet high, unless he was possessed with the same vanity as Alexander the Great, who caused beds five cubits long to be left in his camp, when he returned from his Indian expedition, in order that the people might think that his soldiers were of a gigantic stature. Allowances must here be made for a royal bed; and, at any rate, it will not easily be proved that a human body might not exceed 12 or 15 feet in height, without injuring the just proportions, as T. Paine would have us believe. We know that the difference in size between the inhabitants of Shetland and of Patagonia is still very great; and the people of the former island would act very irrationally, if they would not credit the existence of the Lincolnshire ox, or of the large dray horses in London, because their own oxen are not bigger than mastiffs. See Watson, p. 26.


  • 3) The Neanderthals of one place in Spain were vegetarians, enjoying especially the pine nuts which are now used for pesto, the Neanderthal in Shanidar survived through cares of his own men after he had been crippled, and ...

  • 4) If Neanderthals had indeed been the Nephelim race, it is less probable that Noah would have allowed one of his sons to marry one even half or quarter Neanderthal, as seems to be the case with Mrs. Japheth.


All four are revertible, controvertible, none is totally conclusive. But they are notable.

II Four Rivers, Other Bid


0:31 in CRAZY-MUST SEE NOW! Entire Bible Explained Like a Boss - Truth of Nephilim, Anunnaki, Bloodlines
Evangelist Nick Garrett | 18.V.2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpgSxuMputc

Where would that leave Gihon and Pishon now? Nile and Red Sea? Nile and Jordan? Either way, the arrangement if involving the Nile would involve at least one river changing the direction.

Or does the Evangelist think they are vanished into Mediterranean? Or is he speaking about Syria?

III Wallace and Darwin, Rip-Off or Agreement?
An article by Jerry Bergman, CMI, considered Darwin may have committed a rip-off on Wallace. This seems to indicate that was not quite the case:

Video: Darwin, Charles, and Wallace, Alfred, Natural Means of Selection, 1858. Peter Harrington.
PeterHarringtonBooks | 19.I.2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT1n5akGgMM&list=UUvAHVPrufHJpdT_L3GaIfpw

Description: The first published statement of the theory of evolution in its original journal appearance. Following his return from his voyage aboard the Beagle, during which he had made the observations and gathered the specimens that would provide the data for his groundbreaking conclusions, Charles Darwin spent more than two decades formulating his theory. He was near completion of his great work On the Origin of Species when he was sent a manuscript on species change by the young naturalist Alfred Russel Wallace. It read much like an abstract of the book he was still compiling. In a compromise that would give both of the scientists a measure of priority, it was agreed that Wallace's paper and some of Darwin's writings showing his own discovery of natural selection would be read at the same Linnean Society meeting, on 1 July 1858. The journal combines two contributions by Darwin with one by Wallace. Following the introduction by Charles Lyell and Joseph Hooker is "Extract from an unpublished work on Species by C. Darwin, consisting of a portion of a Chapter entitled 'On the Variation of Organic Beings in a state of Nature; on the Natural Means of Selection; on the Comparison of Domestic Races and true Species'" (pp. 46–50). This is followed by "Abstract of a Letter from C. Darwin, Esq., to Prof. Asa Gray, Boston, U.S., dated Down, September 5th, 1857" (pp. 50–53). Finally comes Wallace's contribution, "On the Tendency of Varieties to depart indefinitely from the Original Type" (pp. 53–62).

The video is part on a series of a professional bookbinder. The book features, because it is a rare old book.

Other article on CMI, more correctly just mentions Wallace was involved:

CMI : Alfred Russel Wallace—‘co-inventor’ of Darwinism
By Russell Grigg | from Creation 27(4), September 2005
https://creation.com/alfred-russel-wallace-co-inventor-of-darwinism

IV
Messinian salinity crisis and Mediterranean.

Did the Mediterranean Sea desiccate numerous times?
by Michael J. Oard
https://creation.com/mediterranean-desiccate

Quoting:

The creation science explanation of such a huge deposit is that the ‘evaporites’ are actually precipitates. It’s a model that needs further work. The area and volume of these deposits imply a catastrophic mechanism typical of a global Flood. The thick layer of precipitates would place the Flood/post-Flood boundary in this area in the very late Cenozoic. Noah’s Flood is the only mechanism that could produce such a huge, thick deposit in a short time, not to speak of many of the other ‘evaporites’ worldwide.


Evaporites actually precipitates? Fine.

It's a model which needs further work? Not mine.

"imply a catastrophic mechanism" - in Mediterranean, we could actually be talking of two floods. I am still looking for the reference when writing this.

V
Some have considered rocketry is in the Bible.

I, for instance, consider "tower" as good a word for space rocket as any, referring to Genesis 11 (note, rocket per se means bobbin in Italian, more appropriate about firework rockets, right?)

Someone else, I forgot who but if not Rob Skiba someone his type, noted this:

"Though thou be exalted as an eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars: thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord."
[Abdias (Obadiah) 1:4]

US, Russian astronauts safe after emergency landing
https://www.mail.com/int/scitech/news/8787852-us-russian-astronauts-safe-emergency-landing.html#.1258-stage-hero1-1

As per verse 1, the words are to Edom. Now, which of Russia and US is the Edomite eagle, or is it both?

Both at least have eagles in their emblems and here both tried to "set their nest among the stars".

And both were very safely brought down.


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